Just a quick review of a so called quick detailer.
 

Before I start I would like to say for the record that I don't generally buy into waterless washing procedures which in my opinion quick detailers fall into.

Sometimes however I will use meguires quick detailer( the burgundy bottle) if the vehicle is pretty clean and also if there is a slight annoyance on an area that is annoying me. For example bugs splattered on front bumper cover which is incidentally also clear bra'd and a magnet for bug stains\etching - another story.

I recently had the displeasure of trying a product called Turtle Wax Ice quick detailer. The product again in my humble opinion is labelled incorrectly. There is no "quick" in detailing as far as this product goes. Let me expand for a moment, from where I come from and used to, the application of a quick detailer means spray and wipe off. This particular product requires one to spray then wipe and then wipe again( with another cloth) the waxy smeary residue that it leaves behind once dried. Well, in my books this ain't no "quick" detailer. Moreover, using this product since we are wiping area more than once could result in more added swirls and scratches since after all we are waterless washing a given area. More so given the fact that the second pass with the microfiber is applied on a dry lube free surface.

This product states that it also hides minor swirl marks, good job too. As you will be making a good few of those.

As a quick detailer this item belongs in the trash can. Perhaps it might work after a wash, who knows.





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Take a tip from the Harley community..
 

I've seen the TW Ice stuff but never tried it.
The Harley crowd has used the plain aerosol 'Pledge' furniture polish as a quick detailer forever.
If you are still loooking, maybe give that a shot. The plain lemon stuff in the yellow can.

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Thanks for the review. I have found that most off-the-shelf detailers like the ones you mentioned are only good for lubrication when using clay. Other than that, these aren't good for QD applications that we car lovers expect.

:iagree:

also to drown ants

I am sure as a wax/ detailer after a full deep wash it will work okay.

I even tried some of the clay lube made by Chemical Guys, bought the big diluted jug. That mofo leaves streaks like I wiped with a contaminated 0-30W oil cloth on the panels. However, and this part is important. It was never advertised as a quick detailer.

Anyways, need my 2nd wash of the year today. As I drove from Orlando to home earlier this evening. It was raining and there was lots of little ickle frogs being run over on the road by yours truly, not sure what the hell was going on, for a moment I thought the plague had started.

Now the garage smells as does the exterior of the car of a dirty sewage stale water stench. I dread to look under the fenders.

I use meguires quick detailer ( the burgundy bottle), as well….LOVE it. Will not use anything else. Nothing nicer than being able get that car-show shine in a bottle.

Yep, thats the one I used to use all the time as well. Works as intended.

I may get the Gerry Dean Juice soon.

Dam people still use that??? I use the same Mequires as the others and I'm cool with it.

I think they still do
 

Last I looked the Harley guys still do.
I use a product called Reload on my C-Quartz and Xpel, (from the makers of C - Quartz) but I'm so anal I never put it anywhere near my paint unless I've just washed and dried it. Between washes NOTHING touches my paint unless I get the odd smashed bug. I drown the bit**** with warm water on a MF cloth until they just about fall off and that's even with the Xpel and C-Quartz. The two give me an extra layer of protection over the paint.
There isn't a QD out there I'd trust on anything but a freshly washed and dried car.
I'd sure like to know if there is one.

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That's exactly what I use it for too. The odd bug splat or two. I don't clean my car with it.

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I've used Meguiars and was never happy with the shine. It cleaned well but never produced enough shine for me. I now use it for clay jobs and for my rims and exhaust tips and cans. I recommend Poorboy's QD+, Chemical Guys Hybrid V7, and Chemical Guys Speed Wipe. I've used all three. V7 for the high gloss shine but I love PB's QD+ and the CG SW because of the sine AND the smell it leaves in your garage.

You are using a QD to produce a shine on your paint? :confused:

Oh, oh
 

OH,OH.....I have this feeling school is now in session.
Let 'er rip Junkman!

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Maintain/retain. Not shine on its own. Lol.

actually my Speedshine has wax content. after the qd, i go over it with a dry mf and it does produce additional shine.

hell, i have so many layers of Speedshine i dont even wax my hobby cars any more!

For clay lube I use ONR diluted down, protection I use Sonax PNS, and for QD or PNS longevity booster I use Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer.

with all these abbreviations, i would've expected the last to be SBSD. :icon17:

Oh and I use SBSD as a QD or SPNS booster... Better? ;)

Okay, at first you said...

Now you're saying...

So I'm a little confused. Which one is it? :confused:

I assume he's addressing how well a product can maintain the shine, not "producing" shine one its own.



Gotta say, Junkman, it's cool to see you around here. Your videos (alongside Autogeek) helped convince me of my PC 7424XP. Loved them.

That's what he said after that first post but that first post says something very different. ;)

I've been here for years. I drop by often. :tiphat:

Hey Junkman. All I'm saying is this......I have tried a bunch of QD's and see better results with what I have mentioned compared to the cheap-of-the-shelf QDs.
The V7 for example, gave me better results and appeared shinier when I started using it over the Megs. These things also do a great job of maintaining a long lasting shine.

QD's don't maintain a shine. That's what a wax or sealant is for. If you are using a QD to clean your paint and reveal the shine beneath the dirt then you are doing it wrong. That's when a car should be washed. Yes, it's a PITA to have to wash the car every time it gets a little dusty but it is better for your paint to just leave it dusty/dirty than it is to scoot that dirt all around the car with a quick detailer. Now you have a white car so out of everyone, it will take that damage longer before it will rear it's ugly head to the point where you can clearly see it but trust me, if you are using a QD the way that you are saying, that damage is there and growing every time you use a QD that way.

If I were to do that to my paint ONCE, the amount of damage that would be evident would show up immediately. With the paint on the Z being so soft, the same exact thing would happen on a dark colored, fully corrected Z just as fast. This is exactly why I don't use a QD in that manner. Not only is it a bad habit but when you look at the logical reason that I lay down in my dust removal videos, it's just common sense when I say that you are asking for trouble when you use a QD in that manner.

Bad looking paint is like getting fat. Going to the local greasy spoon and eating that super-sized greasy double cheeseburger won't make you obese overnight, it's the day in and out trips to that greasy spoon that takes that toll on your body. Constantly cleaning your paint with a QD is an accumulative way to wreck your paint, as I will bet that there are people here who can attest to that first hand. Now they probably know better.

If you want to maintain a shine, use a good wax or sealant. They both protect the shine that comes from proper polishing. Then all you will have to do to see that shine once your car becomes dusty is to just rinse the car off and blow it dry. Wallah, the shine will come right through and you won't have to touch the paint with anything. As we all can derive from common sense, the less you touch the paint, the less chance there is for you to create any damage in the paint. ;)