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sboden 02-05-2012 05:17 PM

As was said by another poster, some manufacturer's will take a hit on low production cars as the cars provide image. The image helps sells their other cars such as the Maxima commercial in which the male has kids and pulls a Maxima out of the hatch of a 370Z. You can look at Vipers, ZR1, Ford GT's and such for the same reason. Now an argument can be made that Nissan now has the GTR, so they don't need the 370Z for this anymore. I argue that the Z has the heritage that the GTR doesn't have, so I would guess safe for the time being.

6MT 02-05-2012 06:29 PM

So... What's the point of this thread?

SmallermouseZ 02-06-2012 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 1525357)
Retail price is at least 40k before taxes. After taxes it's almost 50k. That's a lot of dough for a car considering the average annual income is 40k or so. Not to mention it's not a very practical car, 2 seats, no trunk, etc. Also, only rwd, so not the easiest car to drive in winter. Another thing is the car is a bit too rough, too sporty, and too harsh for the non-enthusiasts among the poser crowds who may opt for something that looks like a sports car but rides like a lexus.

Well said, well said!

alcheng 02-06-2012 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 1525357)
Retail price is at least 40k before taxes. After taxes it's almost 50k. That's a lot of dough for a car considering the average annual income is 40k or so. Not to mention it's not a very practical car, 2 seats, no trunk, etc. Also, only rwd, so not the easiest car to drive in winter. Another thing is the car is a bit too rough, too sporty, and too harsh for the non-enthusiasts among the poser crowds who may opt for something that looks like a sports car but rides like a lexus.

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Originally Posted by SmallermouseZ (Post 1528150)
Well said, well said!

Well said??? Yes, assuming Mr.Pharmacist is looking for a 4WD sedan around $40k.

The numbers posted by the OP is from the Canadian market sales, manufacture will look at the numbers from global sales.

I would not believe the Z is in endangered list as long as NISSAN is still making it, the Z is the symbol of NISSAN, and how could they stop bring it to Canada??

We have little number of Z in Canada, but we won't have none.

Cafiax 02-06-2012 02:59 AM

I've noticed a recent increase in # of black/white 370z in my area. :( I feel less special everyday. Richmond BC

Paskii 02-06-2012 08:13 AM

There's probably a few factors to why the sales did so poor this year, the economy was pretty bad and overall Canadians are quite conservative on purchasing items like a two door coupe. Many of my buddies like the Z but they simply find it not practical for the price, can't compare to the US as it is much cheaper. Also competition is another reason, I think all the Genesis owners were once potential Z buyers. Have to admit Genesis is a pretty good deal. I see a lot of Genesis!

Maybe the bad sales have triggered Nissan to upgrade the 2012/13 Z, can't wait till they unveil it in the upcoming Chicago Auto show.

Dizzy 02-06-2012 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sboden (Post 1527777)
As was said by another poster, some manufacturer's will take a hit on low production cars as the cars provide image. The image helps sells their other cars such as the Maxima commercial in which the male has kids and pulls a Maxima out of the hatch of a 370Z. You can look at Vipers, ZR1, Ford GT's and such for the same reason. Now an argument can be made that Nissan now has the GTR, so they don't need the 370Z for this anymore. I argue that the Z has the heritage that the GTR doesn't have, so I would guess safe for the time being.

That and the previously mentioned similiar point do make sense, Never looked at it that way. The Viper, ZR1 and GT's are good examples and if you add the heritage factor, that probably does keep it safe.

I have never understood the Z's lack of sales, but I am starting to realise that is skewed by my view of the world (40's and no kids). The more I think about it, there really isn't a big market for the car.

Dizzy 02-06-2012 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1527839)
So... What's the point of this thread?

The point was, I saw the stats online and sure enough, there was my beloved car at the bottom of the list in sales. I saw that very low number and thought "wow, wonder if they will stop selling it in Canada". So, I asked the question here.

I got some constructive feedback......and apparently raised the ire of some by pointing out the low sales.

Gee, sorry I even mentioned it.

MacCool 02-06-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dizzy (Post 1527175)
My observation is that with sales that low, could it be heading for another hiatus? It has taken a hiatus before and these days, major corporations just want to make money. At 453 units, is this profitable for Nissan?

I think another hiatus is likely. Sales worldwide are not only low, they're declining significantly year-over-year.

6MT 02-06-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dizzy (Post 1528529)
Gee, sorry I even mentioned it.

:iagree:

GaleForce 02-06-2012 10:46 AM

Yeah, the Z is a niche vehicle for sure. Look at GM who tried to enter that market only to scrap the Sky and Solstice shortly after their introduction... however, those two vehicles also don't/didn't have the heritage that the Z does.

I really like the low volume of the Z, making it more rare. Just hope Nissan doesn't decide to end it's life because of the low numbers.

Pharmacist 02-06-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 1528195)
Well said??? Yes, assuming Mr.Pharmacist is looking for a 4WD sedan around $40k.

The numbers posted by the OP is from the Canadian market sales, manufacture will look at the numbers from global sales.

I would not believe the Z is in endangered list as long as NISSAN is still making it, the Z is the symbol of NISSAN, and how could they stop bring it to Canada??

We have little number of Z in Canada, but we won't have none.

I wasn't taking about myself. I was talking about the average canadian. Yes for the general public a 50k 2 seat gas guzzling stiff riding sports car is neither affordable nor logical. Are you disputing this?

imwazn 02-06-2012 02:07 PM

I know when I was trying to get my Z in the US last August, there were only about 4 within a three hour drive of me. Every dealer kept telling me that they weren't getting any new Z's because of the tsunami... that could factor in a bit. Also everything else that people before mentioned.

Da.Menace 02-06-2012 04:19 PM

IBTL... But thank you Dizzy for posting the info.

6MT 02-06-2012 04:51 PM

I don't think you need to be IBTL. There's lots more raunchier threads that should be closed long before this one. I suppose it's the "Canadian" inside of all who post and read here ... this "looks" a lot worse than it is.


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