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VancouverZ34 03-13-2010 02:43 AM

Legal issue with DUI
 
I'm not sure if this is okay to discuss about this kind of issue on this forum.
Last night, I was parked infront of my friend's apartment where it's only 200m away from my house.
A police officer approached and asked me for my driver's license and insurance. I recently renewed my insurance and I couldn't remember where I've put it because i was panicking.
He asked me to blow into the breathalyzer, I informed him that I have medical conditions and also I'm a heavy chain smoker. He almost forced me to do the test over and over again and it kept on saying error. I ended up getting handcuffed and thrown into the cop car infront of the girl who I was asking out about 5 minutes before the incident. (how embarrassing is that?)
at the university RCMP station, I was asked to do the breathalyzer test over and over, the machine was unable give right number.
then NOW i got charged with "fail to provide sample" under section 254 act 5.
cops asked me to sign on "PROMISE TO APPEAR" paper and other tickets, however I refused to do so, telling them "I don't sign on something that don't admit or I don't agree". They lied to me, saying "you'll be imprisoned until the court date if you don't sign the papers". I did not sign, they just let me go with 2 tickets on "parking in no parking zone" and "fail to produce insurance" and unsigned "promise to appear" paper.

HERE ARE MY QUESTIONS:
1. can I get charged with DUI if I wasn't even driving?
2. do I even have to bother showing up the court if I didn't even sign?
3. is there a way to sue to police officer refusing to conduct different test methods such as balance test, blood sample test and others (methods listed on ICBC website).
4. is there a way to get my money back on towing/impound as well as loss from not being able to drive for a day(even though I don't need my car to go to school and so on, I want to give cops the best I got.)

Thanks for reading such a long thread. :tiphat:

FricFrac 03-13-2010 02:53 AM

Get a lawyer.

SoCal 370Z 03-13-2010 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FricFrac (Post 443332)
Get a lawyer.

:iagree:

fullmonty 03-13-2010 03:15 AM

Get a lawyer, however I do not think they can charge you with DUI or the like because they could not get a sample.

schrack150 03-13-2010 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VancouverZ34 (Post 443325)
I'm not sure if this is okay to discuss about this kind of issue on this forum.
Last night, I was parked infront of my friend's apartment where it's only 200m away from my house.
A police officer approached and asked me for my driver's license and insurance. I recently renewed my insurance and I couldn't remember where I've put it because i was panicking.
He asked me to blow into the breathalyzer, I informed him that I have medical conditions and also I'm a heavy chain smoker. He almost forced me to do the test over and over again and it kept on saying error. I ended up getting handcuffed and thrown into the cop car infront of the girl who I was asking out about 5 minutes before the incident. (how embarrassing is that?)
at the university RCMP station, I was asked to do the breathalyzer test over and over, the machine was unable give right number.
then NOW i got charged with "fail to provide sample" under section 254 act 5.
cops asked me to sign on "PROMISE TO APPEAR" paper and other tickets, however I refused to do so, telling them "I don't sign on something that don't admit or I don't agree". They lied to me, saying "you'll be imprisoned until the court date if you don't sign the papers". I did not sign, they just let me go with 2 tickets on "parking in no parking zone" and "fail to produce insurance" and unsigned "promise to appear" paper.

HERE ARE MY QUESTIONS:
1. can I get charged with DUI if I wasn't even driving?
2. do I even have to bother showing up the court if I didn't even sign?
3. is there a way to sue to police officer refusing to conduct different test methods such as balance test, blood sample test and others (methods listed on ICBC website).
4. is there a way to get my money back on towing/impound as well as loss from not being able to drive for a day(even though I don't need my car to go to school and so on, I want to give cops the best I got.)

Thanks for reading such a long thread. :tiphat:

1. itd be hard to prove
2. it would look bad on your part not to go
3. they should have done fst's, but they didnt see you driving
4. i doubt it

most states with a failure to provide, will suspend your license for a set period of time
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E-CIGS

ducky 03-13-2010 04:21 AM

that is one d*ck popo...always hated them..have nothing better to do..

VancouverZ34 03-13-2010 07:18 AM

it'd be very easy to prove since cop gave me another ticket for "parking in no parking zone" at the same time. This clearly shows that I was PARKED. don't you agree? :)

IDZRVIT 03-13-2010 07:46 AM

I'm no lawyer but it sounds like you had care and control of your vehicle. Too bad you didn't fully cooperate as the horsemen will surely bring this up at your court appearance. Can you prove medically that you can't exhale enough to provide a sample? That would be my defence based on the facts you have stated. Oh, and get a lawyer.

racerxj17 03-13-2010 09:50 AM

You can get a DUI for being passed out in he driver seat, car off, but the keys in the ignition.......

370Zsteve 03-13-2010 09:53 AM

Canada you say? Or is it Nazi Germany?

Quote:

Originally Posted by VancouverZ34 (Post 443325)
I'm not sure if this is okay to discuss about this kind of issue on this forum.
Last night, I was parked infront of my friend's apartment where it's only 200m away from my house.
A police officer approached and asked me for my driver's license and insurance. I recently renewed my insurance and I couldn't remember where I've put it because i was panicking.
He asked me to blow into the breathalyzer, I informed him that I have medical conditions and also I'm a heavy chain smoker. He almost forced me to do the test over and over again and it kept on saying error. I ended up getting handcuffed and thrown into the cop car infront of the girl who I was asking out about 5 minutes before the incident. (how embarrassing is that?)
at the university RCMP station, I was asked to do the breathalyzer test over and over, the machine was unable give right number.
then NOW i got charged with "fail to provide sample" under section 254 act 5.
cops asked me to sign on "PROMISE TO APPEAR" paper and other tickets, however I refused to do so, telling them "I don't sign on something that don't admit or I don't agree". They lied to me, saying "you'll be imprisoned until the court date if you don't sign the papers". I did not sign, they just let me go with 2 tickets on "parking in no parking zone" and "fail to produce insurance" and unsigned "promise to appear" paper.

HERE ARE MY QUESTIONS:
1. can I get charged with DUI if I wasn't even driving?
2. do I even have to bother showing up the court if I didn't even sign?
3. is there a way to sue to police officer refusing to conduct different test methods such as balance test, blood sample test and others (methods listed on ICBC website).
4. is there a way to get my money back on towing/impound as well as loss from not being able to drive for a day(even though I don't need my car to go to school and so on, I want to give cops the best I got.)

Thanks for reading such a long thread. :tiphat:


theDreamer 03-13-2010 09:56 AM

I agree with others, find a good lawyer, show up.

CrownR426 03-13-2010 10:08 AM

With a great lawyer, you can show them not to mess around.

G Fo12ce 03-13-2010 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racerxj17 (Post 443495)
You can get a DUI for being passed out in he driver seat, car off, but the keys in the ignition.......

In this case if you chose to sleep it off and made a wise decision to do that instead of drive drunk I think most cops would give you some slack. They'll probably tell you that you can't sleep over night in your car though.

Like someone said you will get your license suspended for an FTA (failure to appear) pretty much everywhere. I know, I say it about 10 times a shift as a dispatcher. Oh and get a lawyer.

m4a1mustang 03-13-2010 11:10 AM

For the billionth time, get a lawyer. That's what they're there for.

ChrisSlicks 03-13-2010 11:44 AM

First off, get a lawyer. They should be able to get all charges dismissed without too much trouble. It's much harder to fight these things on your own.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VancouverZ34 (Post 443325)
1. can I get charged with DUI if I wasn't even driving?

As already stated, if you are in your vehicle and have the keys in your possession on within the vehicle, then yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VancouverZ34 (Post 443325)
2. do I even have to bother showing up the court if I didn't even sign?

Yes, unless you make other arrangements with your attorney.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VancouverZ34 (Post 443325)
3. is there a way to sue to police officer refusing to conduct different test methods such as balance test, blood sample test and others (methods listed on ICBC website).

You can't sue them in this case but because they failed to use all the methods available to them after the breath test failed they can't legally charge you under 254-5. This act is primarily for people that refuse to provide a sample, you on the other hand were fully cooperative.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VancouverZ34 (Post 443325)
4. is there a way to get my money back on towing/impound as well as loss from not being able to drive for a day(even though I don't need my car to go to school and so on, I want to give cops the best I got.)

You should be able to get the towing impound fees returned if it was proven that the arrest was improper, which it appears it may be. Damages will not be awarded, you would have to file a civil suit against the RCMP.


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