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sandersd 12-29-2014 11:21 AM

*SOLVED* TPMS and off-center steering wheel
 
This morning I left for work, drove about 1/2 mile and the TPMS alert came on. I pulled over into a parking lot and all four tires were at 30 psi. Since I'm close I figured I'd drive to work and if it was a flat I'd change it before coming home, but I never made it to work.

Driving down the freeway I noticed the steering wheel was off-centered about five degrees to the right even though I was driving straight. Last time I drove it was perfectly centered as it has been since the day I drove it home. I haven't hit anything. Anyway I drove home and took my truck to work.

I'm anxious to see if I have a flat when I return home but other than that (since I haven't hit anything) I can't imaging what would cause the steering wheel to suddenly point to the right.

Any ideas?

TreeSemdyZee 12-29-2014 12:05 PM

How accurate is your gauge? Is it one of those cheapy manual gauges that you can get at AutoZone?
Also, if you've been driving and your pressures actually are 30psi, then you are way too low on pressure. They should be 35 cold. If one of the tires is quite low, it would definitely pull.

sandersd 12-29-2014 12:30 PM

Rule these out
 
Thanks for the suggestions. The gauge is fine, the actual pressure is irrelevant in this context (what's important is they are all the same), and the car doesn't pull, only the steering wheel is off center.

I'm assuming the two issues are related because they both happened at the same time. However if they are not then perhaps the TPMS is reacting to the slightly low cold tire temp as you suggest and is a separate issue with convenient timing, but I don't see how that would affect the steering wheel alignment.

I recently installed the Swift Spec Rs and I'm trying to envision some way that could effect the issue. I need to research that.

Thanks for your input!

SouthArk370Z 12-29-2014 12:39 PM

Since the tire pressures are even, the off-center steering wheel suggests a linkage/steering box/suspension problem to me. This may have caused the TPMS sensor to move away from the receiver causing intermittent operation.

Trips 12-29-2014 01:12 PM

As for the off steering wheel issue?

I've had this off center issue myself for awhile in my case I would have the habit of leaving my wheels chocked to the right in my driveway so its easier to pull out due to the angle of my drive way anyway I was about to adjust the tie rods to center the steering wheel when I noticed that after the car was sitting for days with the wheels straight that when I drove it my steering wheel was back on center so I had to do a double take and stare at the steering wheel to make sure I wasn't hallucinating things, But indeed the steering wheel was normal the only difference in my case was the steering wheel was also 5º off to the left.
I've also heard of this happening to other folks, But like if by magic it corrected itself so its hard to determine exactly the cause in my case thats what I noticed corrected it.
I also have never run into anything while driving to knock it back on track that I can remember.
You could try to turn the wheels full left and right, And see if that returns the steering wheel to center :ugh2:

sandersd 12-29-2014 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Trips (Post 3067923)
As for the off steering wheel issue?

You could try to turn the wheels full left and right, And see if that returns the steering wheel to center :ugh2:

I'll try that as soon as I get home. It'll be spooky if it works...

Read T 12-29-2014 03:25 PM

Might be worth having your alignment checked. If the road was crowned a decent amount and you are running a bit more toe out in the front it could cause some wander or off center steering. I get this when I toe out and put on grippier tires for DEs.

sandersd 12-29-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Read T (Post 3068038)
Might be worth having your alignment checked. If the road was crowned a decent amount and you are running a bit more toe out in the front it could cause some wander or off center steering. I get this when I toe out and put on grippier tires for DEs.

I do plan on an alignment but I'm still waiting for my coilovers to arrive, maybe another week or so. I don't think it's related to road crown or toe since it was fine one day and off the next and is consistent wherever I'm driving. That's the odd thing about it: I parked it Friday night after returning from Waco and it was fine all the way home. It rained all day Sat and Sun so I stayed home. When I left for work Monday the light came on within 30 seconds after pulling out of the driveway.

sandersd 12-30-2014 06:05 AM

Interesting New Developments
 
So after work I went to have my tires topped off to 35 psi with nitrogen, probably will not do that again for $30, and halfway there the TPMS light goes off. Hasn't come back on.

But, when I turn off the car and close the door the clutch message comes on and it beeps really fast. I have to restart the car and turn it off again to cancel the message. Only happens occasionally.

Now, this morning as I'm driving to work the slip indicator light came on and remained on till I turned off the car.

Something really wacky is going on...

nis350 12-30-2014 12:07 PM

You probably screwed up some wiring or sensors as a result of the springs installation. I think the TPMS doesn't get tripped til below 25l psi.

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Originally Posted by sandersd (Post 3068543)
So after work I went to have my tires topped off to 35 psi with nitrogen, probably will not do that again for $30, and halfway there the TPMS light goes off. Hasn't come back on.

But, when I turn off the car and close the door the clutch message comes on and it beeps really fast. I have to restart the car and turn it off again to cancel the message. Only happens occasionally.

Now, this morning as I'm driving to work the slip indicator light came on and remained on till I turned off the car.

Something really wacky is going on...


Zauskycop 12-30-2014 02:18 PM

TPMS goes off below 30 psi.

Other note...nitrogen? Were the tires filled with nitrogen before? Did they purge them? I love all the people who use nitrogen and have ZERO idea why....waste of money.

Tracy Ramsey

sandersd 12-30-2014 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zauskycop (Post 3069088)
TPMS goes off below 30 psi.

Other note...nitrogen? Were the tires filled with nitrogen before? Did they purge them? I love all the people who use nitrogen and have ZERO idea why....waste of money.

Tracy Ramsey

Yes they were from the factory.

No, they just added 6 psi each (I told them not to purge)

I know all about nitrogen applications. (I researched it while waiting, hence my remorse for spending $30)

I agree, a waste of money (for me) unless in a professional race car (which I am not).

sandersd 12-30-2014 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nis350 (Post 3068944)
You probably screwed up some wiring or sensors as a result of the springs installation. I think the TPMS doesn't get tripped til below 25l psi.

You may be right. I've been reading the service manual and the VDC, TCM, ABS, and steering angle sensor are all interconnected and affect each others operation. Not sure how the clutch warning message fits in to the equation - I can't find where it is explained (why it's triggered) in the manual.

I don't see how I could have damaged any of the sensors during the spring swap. All I did is unclip them from the bracket. I'm leaning toward the steering angle sensor reading that I'm driving straight while my steering wheel is pointed to the right, and therefore it thinks I'm sliding or losing traction and is confused.

Manual says the steering angle sensor neutral position should be readjusted after removing or installing suspension or steering components.

Spooler 12-30-2014 08:35 PM

If you have installed springs and not had an alignment, this could be your issue. Or,Your springs could have settled causing the alignment to change. That is why most folks drive if for a little while, then get the alignment.

sandersd 12-31-2014 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3069315)
If you have installed springs and not had an alignment, this could be your issue. Or,Your springs could have settled causing the alignment to change. That is why most folks drive if for a little while, then get the alignment.

That's the conclusion I've come to for everything except the clutch message. Still working on that one. Just waiting for the coilovers to arrive...


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