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Dustin@Z1 10-20-2009 09:13 PM

Are you referring to the valving in the dampner?

JoeyD 10-21-2009 08:11 AM

Sorry guys. I just fact checked myself. No puck type dampers. I must have been drunk reading Nissan website. They animated the lateral damper in two different colors. My eyes played tricks and I thought it was two different pieces all together. I apologize for any confusion I may have caused.

JoeyD 10-21-2009 08:19 AM

Anyway, back on topic. I like these pieces and since the US Spec Nismo doesn't have them Z1 now has a larger market to sell to.

bucketman 10-21-2009 06:24 PM

Some of the US Spec Nismo's will have them soon!!Heh,Heh!

Equinox 10-21-2009 08:36 PM

yeah I was reading this going - wah? I don't have any of this ****, I've personally been in all parts of my car that is pictured

Now the rear lower bar, does this replace the black stock ladder bar that bolts under the exhaust/driveshaft, or is it farther back than that? Reason being - my stock ladder bar is in the way, this might give me room

bucketman 10-22-2009 08:56 AM

From looking at Dustin's pics, it looks like it is in addition to the other brace. Soon as I get them in, I'll post any difference between stock 370z and the Nismo. Mostly we are looking to see if it interfers with the damper mount up front.

dcrew1x 10-23-2009 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bucketman (Post 247767)
From looking at Dustin's pics, it looks like it is in addition to the other brace. Soon as I get them in, I'll post any difference between stock 370z and the Nismo. Mostly we are looking to see if it interfers with the damper mount up front.

I just got the kit in. Here are some pics to give you an idea of all the pieces

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...x/DSC01750.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...x/DSC01751.jpg

I'll probably try to get it installed maybe this weekend. Feeling kinda lazy:p

vipor 10-23-2009 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bucketman (Post 244438)
That is correct. They stiffened up the bar by placing a short piece five or six inches further down the bar, kind of like a gusset. When I get home I'll post apic.

http://www.the370z.com/members/vipor...trut-brace.jpg

The additional braces are on the outside edges of the picture.

dcrew1x 10-23-2009 08:22 PM

Update:

Put together a lot of the pieces; getting ready to actually install maybe some time this weekend.

Here are some pics:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...x/DSC01752.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...x/DSC01753.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...x/DSC01754.jpg

bucketman 10-24-2009 01:56 PM

Dustin@Z1 and dcrew1x. I am putting the pieces together and the way you have the end piece on the rear brace doesn't jive with the instructions.It appears that the solid wrap around angle goes toward the outside. Am I missing something? I am refering to diagram 2 and 3 on the instructions.

dcrew1x 10-24-2009 11:06 PM

Bucketman I'm not sure exactly what you are referring to :confused:

On a side note FYI:

Today I went ahead and installed the Interior Nismo brace (black brace with red mounts). You definitely do NOT need to take apart both sides of your trunk trim pieces. Just need to take apart one side which will give you room to take out the foam piece and put in your brace.

I plan on installing the front brace (the one in front of the radiator) probably tomorrow if weather permits.

Knives 10-24-2009 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcrew1x (Post 251027)
Bucketman I'm not sure exactly what you are referring to :confused:

On a side note FYI:

Today I went ahead and installed the Interior Nismo brace (black brace with red mounts). You definitely do NOT need to take apart both sides of your trunk trim pieces. Just need to take apart one side which will give you room to take out the foam piece and put in your brace.

I plan on installing the front brace (the one in front of the radiator) probably tomorrow if weather permits.

How long did the install take? And any impressions yet?

dcrew1x 10-24-2009 11:58 PM

I've only had a chance to install one of the three braces. (the interior one) Probably took about 30 minutes. Would have been shorter if I didn't bother taking apart both sides of interior trim. It was a tight squeeze to get some of the bolts tied down using some acrobatic skills lol which also took up some time. Aside from the time factor, the install was easy.

Didn't really drive around. I plan on installing the other 2 before I give any impressions/feedback.

bucketman 10-25-2009 12:25 AM

Just got home from LSU football game. Thanks for the info on the interior brace. I am going to try to put all the pieces in today. I'll take some pics of the part I was talking about. It's the rear underneath and probably doesn't make that much difference.:tiphat:

dcrew1x 10-25-2009 10:46 AM

Sweet! Goodluck!

Knives 10-25-2009 06:18 PM

Good to hear it's an easy install.

Curious to see if these braces make a noticeable difference.

dcrew1x 10-25-2009 07:24 PM

Ok So I installed the front Nismo brace bar (the one in front of the radiator).

Tools needed: socket wrench, extension, 10mm and 12mm socket adapter

If you have the gen3 intakes, there is like no way to install this w/out taking out the front bumper.

No big deal. Took bumper off. You do not have to remove the intakes. I suggest one side of the brace bracket be loose to give you some slack as you line up the holes to the frame of the car on each end.

Like Dustin says, you do remove the 2 black original frame pieces.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...x/DSC01755.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...x/DSC01759.jpg

The one on the passenger side has some lines connected to it.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...x/DSC01757.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...x/DSC01758.jpg

Remove the clip holding the lines or just remove the clip like i did. You're gonna have to zip tie or electrical tape those lines to the brace bar itself to keep them from moving around.

Overall installation was pretty easy. Mine took way longer than needed because I didn't have decent tools. An extension for your socket wrench is your best friend for this install; too bad I didn't have one :mad:

Ok insert one end of the Nismo brace behind the big aluminum bar that supports the foam bar and align to one end, then align the other end. Once you have the brace lined up, go ahead and tighten the bolts to the frame. Once that's done, tighten down the loose brace bracket and you're set.

From here secure the now loose lines with zip ties or something like I mentioned above and reinstall all components: foam bar and front bumper.

I'll probably tackle the last Nismo brace underneath the vehicle when I have access to a lift. Maybe next weekend.

bucketman 10-25-2009 09:56 PM

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Nice write up. Now for the differences with the Nismo model. Everything is the same except for the nismo has a sheetmetal air guide because the nose is longer. This has to be cut to fit the front bar, also the electrical connections are attached the this sheet metal guide instead of the "rams horns". Have not cut mine yet because dremel tool is at work.

dcrew1x 11-07-2009 10:34 AM

Nice. Let me know how the install goes. This should definitely help out the Nismo owners as mine did for the Base/Touring owners. +1

I notice you have an oil cooler. Hope that doesn't make it difficult to get the bar through. I brought the bar from the bottom up behind the brace bar and I don't have an oil cooler. The PS cooler is pretty small so it's not really an issue.

On another note, I haven't got around to installing the rear brace underneath yet because of my hectic schedule and also I'm waiting on my Stillen CBE to arrive to install that at the same time.

As for now, with 2/3 braces installed, there seems to be less roll when turning corners. Currently I work at a big airfield and I put up some cones for fun. Good times :p

Now if only some vendor would carry the Nismo lateral stabilizers/dampers already..

Knives 11-09-2009 09:55 PM

I agree, would like to see the lateral stabilizers come out too.

Dcrew, even though only 2/3 is installed, would you say it's worth the money?

dcrew1x 11-09-2009 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knives (Post 274229)
I agree, would like to see the lateral stabilizers come out too.

Dcrew, even though only 2/3 is installed, would you say it's worth the money?

Yes I think it was worth the money. I also plan on purchasing the GTspec 4pt lower brace and lower rear tie bar. Eventually when the Nismo/yamaha lateral dampers are for sale, I will purchase them too.

Once my schedule stabilizes, I plan on getting the KW Variant 3 coilovers and camber kit to complete the suspension setup. By then there should be more sway bar options out to choose from including whiteline.

Knives 11-09-2009 10:38 PM

Sounds like a winning setup man.

I'll be trailing you by a couple months, but I plan on doing virtually the same suspension mods. Still conflicted about lowering the car though. Bad memories with speedbumps and driveways.

bucketman 12-31-2009 03:03 AM

Okay, have had these parts on for a little bit. Only thing I have really noticed is the rear doesn't seem to float around as much on high speed corners as it use to. Hard to be to firm on whether it helped a whole lot, track was kinda dusty(sugar cane harvest) so everything felt a little slick anyway. Will post more as time progresses.

Zat_Zuma 12-31-2009 04:33 PM

Nismo Brace Kit
 
Any plans on bringing the Nismo Brace Kit for purchase?

I've been delaying my complete order until these braces arrive :tup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dustin@Z1 (Post 225868)
We just got this kit in from Nissan Motorsports, its the add-on NISMO Brace Kit for NISMO 370Z. These pieces come stadard on the NISMO Edition cars, but are not present on the non-NISMO versions.

We will be doing the install later this week!

Here is a quick peak at the kit:

http://www.z1motorsports.com/imageGa...eKit.sized.jpg

The Two Silver Braces go on the underside of the front suspension and the Black/Red Brace actually goes in the interior of the car just behind the driver.


ZForce 12-31-2009 05:06 PM

Nice write up guys, adding to my wish list. Dustin, I will be in touch with ya on a two-fer price (twin 370Z') when the time comes.

G Fo12ce 12-31-2009 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bucketman (Post 252434)
Nice write up. Now for the differences with the Nismo model. Everything is the same except for the nismo has a sheetmetal air guide because the nose is longer. This has to be cut to fit the front bar, also the electrical connections are attached the this sheet metal guide instead of the "rams horns". Have not cut mine yet because dremel tool is at work.

Bucketman,
Do you have any pics of the bar installed showing where you had to cut the air guide?
Thanks in advance.

bucketman 01-01-2010 01:43 PM

I think so. I'll check my camera, if not next time I pop the bumper I'll snap some.

Dustin@Z1 01-11-2010 02:30 PM

I currently have an order in to get more of these in stock. Every one of these I have gotten in have sold to customers from the forums before I could get them listed on the website. As soon as I get them in, I will be listing them on the website.

I ll keep you guys updated as soon as I see them!

vipor 05-11-2010 04:25 PM

These will be next after the headers :yum:

NewYorkJon34 08-07-2011 10:07 PM

With these, will the gtspec braces even be needed? I have KW V3's, lowered about an inch so the 6-point gtspec brace is outta the picture due to clearance, not sure about the 4-point. After reading this thread tho, it seems you get alot for the money with the nismo kit. Are these in stock?

KaienZ34 08-07-2011 10:22 PM

With this kit you do not need the GT braces.

NewYorkJon34 08-07-2011 11:26 PM

Thanks kaien, damn mod bug biting again, lol

NewYorkJon34 08-17-2011 12:07 AM

Hey Z1 or dxcrew, any updates on these braces?

NewYorkJon34 08-20-2011 01:47 AM

Updates?

NewYorkJon34 08-30-2011 01:58 AM

Any new reviews on this part? Z1?

Dustin@Z1 08-31-2011 10:37 AM

Jon,
Sorry for the lack of response. I was some how missing this thread when I was skimming the site.

We have found the following regarding these braces:
  1. The front brace under the front fascia will not work when installed in conjunction with a Stillen Gen III Intake and a 34 Row Oil Cooler. We ended up removing the front brace as a result.
  2. The Rear Interior brace WILL NOT work on convertible (roadster) 370Z's. These cars can only install the Front and Lower Rear Brace.
  3. The lower rear brace sits slightly lower than the rest of the chassis. If your Z is lowered, it will scrap occasionally. Our shop car has many scratches and dings from driving around local back roads, etc.
  4. Some exhuast systems can come into contact with the lower rear brace under certain conditions. Between the engine's natural movemen and flex of the suspension, the cat back section that passes above the brace will vibrate. We ended up spacing the bar slightly to combat this.
We have absolutely no complaints whatsoever about the braces on our Z. Being designed by NISMO Japan, we have 100% confidence in their research and testing of this particular piece. Our only limiting factor of our Z when being tracked is the tires!

NewYorkJon34 08-31-2011 01:43 PM

My car is lowered almost an inch in the rear, but I have the Fast intentions exhaust which sits very low & I barely scrap at all, so I'm not too worried about that. Would an intercooler (gtm stg.1 sc) fit will the front brace? I already have sway bars, and want something extra to reduce the body roll and am trying to see if this kit is worth the price. Do you guys @ Z1 have any labor day deals on this kit?

FL 4Motion 08-31-2011 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dustin@Z1 (Post 1290461)
Jon,
Sorry for the lack of response. I was some how missing this thread when I was skimming the site.

We have found the following regarding these braces:
  1. The front brace under the front fascia will not work when installed in conjunction with a Stillen Gen III Intake and a 34 Row Oil Cooler. We ended up removing the front brace as a result.
  2. The Rear Interior brace WILL NOT work on convertible (roadster) 370Z's. These cars can only install the Front and Lower Rear Brace.
  3. The lower rear brace sits slightly lower than the rest of the chassis. If your Z is lowered, it will scrap occasionally. Our shop car has many scratches and dings from driving around local back roads, etc.
  4. Some exhuast systems can come into contact with the lower rear brace under certain conditions. Between the engine's natural movemen and flex of the suspension, the cat back section that passes above the brace will vibrate. We ended up spacing the bar slightly to combat this.
We have absolutely no complaints whatsoever about the braces on our Z. Being designed by NISMO Japan, we have 100% confidence in their research and testing of this particular piece. Our only limiting factor of our Z when being tracked is the tires!

will the front brace fit w/a 34 row oil cooler but stock or SRI's??
I also have the F.I. CBE, not sure if you can answer this or not, but wondering if the rear brace will clear this CBE?

thanks.

280z/300zx 09-01-2011 02:16 PM

The main question I have is does this brace actually do anything? The Z's chasis is already pretty stiff, is there a noticiable difference in body roll with this set up? Is traction off the line improved due to decreased chasis flex?

fuct 09-01-2011 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 1293258)
The main question I have is does this brace actually do anything? The Z's chasis is already pretty stiff, is there a noticiable difference in body roll with this set up? Is traction off the line improved due to decreased chasis flex?

see im in the same boat. making our cars go-kart stiff isnt always a good thing.


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