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cruzthepug 07-22-2014 06:21 AM

Better brake pad
 
I'm looking for a brake pad that would be better than OEM. Don't know if I want to go all the way to a track pad (since this is my DD) but I am doing a few AutoX events and some times under hard braking I feel like I need just a bit more. Is there a pad that will give me a better initial bite for quick hard braking?

gomer_110 07-22-2014 06:36 AM

Carbotech XP10 up front and XP8 in the rear. Just changed mine and did my first autox with them. Huge improvement in braking although they are partially responsible for me cording a month old set of hoosiers :shakes head:. Might be more pad than your looking for but then again you won't know if you don't try. Also fwiw the pads make NO noise during normal braking which I know for some is a concern.

2011 Nismo#91 07-22-2014 09:53 AM

I use XP10s all around, they dust, they squeal, and they stop better than anything I've had before (which isn't a whole lot). They will use your tires up faster just because they will let you use more of your tire.

Read T 07-22-2014 10:43 AM

I will say it is VERY easy to change pads the day of an autocross so you could always run different pads (I guess you are supposed to change rotors to at the same time). If not though, I will say I daily drove and autocrossed HPS and they did great for me in my S14.

chops 07-22-2014 11:00 AM

ive heard good things about the carbotech bobcats in terms of increased initial bite. they would probably fade on an auto-x course though. id avoid any of the XP series if youre driving on the street. i swap mine before every track day, and by the time i get to the track from my house, the wheels are covered in a thick black dust. cant imagine running them daily.

kenchan 07-22-2014 11:06 AM

great suggestions.

other things i would consider is stickier tires.. and light weight wheels.

cruzthepug 07-22-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2904427)
great suggestions.



other things i would consider is stickier tires.. and light weight wheels.


Tires are on my want list but I just ordered a new set of Forgestar's and tires for daily use so I don't have a lot if tire budget at the moment. I'm running some Michelin pilot sports (bought used) and 18" base model wheels.


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kenchan 07-22-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cruzthepug (Post 2904432)
Tires are on my want list but I just ordered a new set of Forgestar's and tires for daily use so I don't have a lot if tire budget at the moment. I'm running some Michelin pilot sports (bought used) and 18" base model wheels.


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yah, could be that your brakes are fine, but tires not having enough contact.
that will obviously lengthen your braking distance due to tire capacity.

bleed brakes too i suppose. GL

m4a1mustang 07-22-2014 11:29 AM

I love my Ferodo DS2500.

cruzthepug 07-22-2014 08:24 PM

Anyone tried the Carbotech AX6? Carbotech says they were designed to AutoX but only show them fitting up to 2011 370Z. Something different about the newer models sport brakes?

BGTV8 07-22-2014 08:59 PM

Options for a trackable street pad or a streetable track pad - however you want to view it (some are more cost-viable outside the US as US-based providers can offer a "lot" better pricing than that available from non-US suppliers).

Ferodo DS2500
Endless MX72
Project Mu HC+ although this has now been replaced by HC800

The CarboTech range are also really popular in the US but I have not really seen them used outside the US

You have lots of options

cruzthepug 07-23-2014 09:55 AM

I guess my decision needs to be do I put money into Beale pads, or put that money toward better tires? I think I know the answer.....


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ConeKilla 07-31-2014 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 2904099)
Carbotech XP10 up front and XP8 in the rear. Just changed mine and did my first autox with them. Huge improvement in braking although they are partially responsible for me cording a month old set of hoosiers :shakes head:. Might be more pad than your looking for but then again you won't know if you don't try. Also fwiw the pads make NO noise during normal braking which I know for some is a concern.


Wait a sec...did you say your brakes caused you to prematurely cord your Hoosiers? If so I am so glad R comps are out next year.

My vote, Carbotech AX6 - great autoX pad for initial bite with consistent braking feel to stop. I have used on my STi and Mustang with great long lasting(for autoX and street) results. As for tires, yes better tires is always more important than pads. Pads = Priority #2.

cruzthepug 07-31-2014 05:06 PM

I had a set of RE-11's mounted today. I've got my next event on Sunday so I'll see what it's like to have some grip :)

gomer_110 07-31-2014 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ConeKilla (Post 2915083)
Wait a sec...did you say your brakes caused you to prematurely cord your Hoosiers? If so I am so glad R comps are out next year.

Still getting used to the increased bite of the carbotechs, that's what caused it more than anything. Also R-Comps might be out for CS but I run ASP so R-Comps are still the price to play.

ConeKilla 08-01-2014 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cruzthepug (Post 2915173)
I had a set of RE-11's mounted today. I've got my next event on Sunday so I'll see what it's like to have some grip :)

Hmm, good luck. I bought a set of RE-11's for my STi last year and returned them after one event! (Thanks Discount tire) They were Soooo bad in the wet it was scary...yes, even with AWD!

Rangerz 08-01-2014 11:09 PM

I hqve run RE 11 s all year wilh 1 very wet and a damp track day with no issues at all. Very good overall tire. Mine were fairly new so had alot of tread. I do think the RS3 is a slightly faster tire at the track but, that is just my impression from some other guys that run in my group.

cruzthepug 08-02-2014 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rangerz (Post 2916653)
I hqve run RE 11 s all year wilh 1 very wet and a damp track day with no issues at all. Very good overall tire. Mine were fairly new so had alot of tread. I do think the RS3 is a slightly faster tire at the track but, that is just my impression from some other guys that run in my group.

I'll find out tomorrow. At the event last week, when I had no traction, one of the guys that drive's a G recommended the RE11's. Having used both the RE11's and the RS3's he thought the RE11's was a better all around tire and worked better in the wet and in cooler temps. He runs some really good time in the G (running in STU) and usually beats a guy driving a 350 with RS3's. His advice was one reason, the other reason I bought the RE11's is that Tire Rack didn't have the size I needed in the RS3's :mad:.

I'm planning to swap out wheels this morning and drive some backroads today and get at least 100 miles on the tires to help break them in before tomorrow.

cruzthepug 08-02-2014 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ConeKilla (Post 2915083)

My vote, Carbotech AX6 - great autoX pad for initial bite with consistent braking feel to stop.

Looking at the AX6 online it only shows they fit 09-11 370's. Will they fit a '14 with sport brakes?

Corsairprime 08-02-2014 03:18 PM

CarboTech brake pad sizes/shapes Sport calipers
 
Note: Sport Brake pads F: CT1346 and R: CT1347 fit my 2014 Nismo 370Z just fine. Remember to transfer the rattle clips too. I use the CarboTech 1521s on the street and the XP8s on the track. Hope this helps.


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