Pretty sure I warped my rotors
 

I go driving in the mountains and play around a lot with a good bit of pretty hard braking. I noticed now when i brake if I am not laying on the brakes the whole car shakes, pretty sure I warped my rotors :(

99% of time, it is not warped rotors but rather uneven pad deposits. You can try a brake pad bedding process to see if it smooths out. Or in a few days (or weeks if the pads are not aggressive) the pedal feel should smooth out.

When you use the brakes hard, try to avoid being stationary with the brakes on....easier in a manual. But try to keep creeping slowly rather than come to a complete stop.

Trapping a lot of heat from the rotors in one place under pressure of the pads is VERY bad.

I agree I doubt you warped them. I do the same thing with my civic and it smooths out over a few hours of normal driving.

Couldn't have said it better myself. :tup:

it smooths out over a few hours of normal driving?

my last 4 cars all had the same issue. there's no way normal driving would remove it. I've always believed it to be from warping the rotors. if you suggest otherwise, please tell me how to cure this without getting them machined.

Most likely from overheating your stock pads as explained earlier. Only way to prevent it is to either stop driving so hard on them or upgrade to a pad with a higher operating temperature. To fix the problem you already have, your best bet would be to get the rotors turned and hope it fixes it.

Track Pads
 

Another way of fixing this problem is getting a set of track pads and driving on the street for about a week.

I had horrible brake judder (aka warped rotors) on my G35 which I cured with a set of Porterfield R4 pads. On the street (when cold), the pads are abrasive and act in the same way as a brake lathe. After a week my rotors were shiny metal and when I switched back to my street pads the judder was gone.

There are some downsides to this method...

1. Track pads are very noisy. They don't squeal they howl. You will learn to time stop lights and use your parking brake to avoid embarrassing your self.

2. Track pads are very dirty. You thought early model brembo's were dirty? They were nothing compared to a track pad. And the brake dust pits the paint on your wheels.

3. Track pads are expensive. Considering that a brake lathe cost only around $50.

Come to think of it, unless you plan on tracking your car this is a bad idea.

If your rotors were warped - you would hear it, feel it, and when a wheel car is off the ground, you'd hear it, feel it, and see it by spinning the tire.

I am going to go get them turned and see if that fixes it.. i sure hope so.. i always thought it was a good idea to brake kinda hard as opposed to riding them like most people do to keep it from getting uneven wear? I think it was just something I was told growing up and happened to be one of the very few things I never looked into myself to see if it was true...

The amount of energy being dissipated will be the same...just over a long stop, there is more air resistance, rolling resistance and more chance for air cooling.

Still, that's pretty minimal.

Brake like you normally do. Chips fall where they may.

:iagree: Next time it rains (like this weekend) go out and do some pad bedding. I've found in the past, that some good hard wet stops will cure some of the transfer juddering...

Jack your car up, spin the front wheels, listen/look/feel. If your rotors are badly warped you will hear and feel contact with the pad and they will probably stop spinning.
You could also have poor alignment that just becomes more pronounced under braking, or a problem with a wheel bearing.

well i don't think its the alignment or a bearing because it rides perfectly fine but it is a very huge juddering when i brake..

did you break the pads in properly? just out of curiosity

i babied this car for the first 5000 miles or so with the exception of 2-3 nights at the local drag strip then i started taking it to deals gap etc