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myfirstz 09-13-2009 09:30 PM

Rotora Big Brake Kit 370Z
 
Has anyone have experience with Rotora Big Brake Kits? Are they a reputable company?

I'm seriously considering a front brake kit upgrade. It's $1795 for a 2pc 15in Brake Kit 8 piston. Is this a good price? Any feedback would be appreciated.
Here's a link to the website with pricing and details.

http://www.nyxracing.com/images/rotorafc8brakekit.jpg

http://www.nyxracing.com/images/rotoracar1.jpg

http://www.nyxracing.com/images/rotoracar4.jpg

imag 09-13-2009 09:53 PM

Are you getting them for looks or because you're actually running up against the limits of the stock brakes?

If for looks, I'd say spending $2K to have slightly larger brake calipers is ranks high on the list of things humans do that I don't understand - but these are probably the cheapest way to do it.

If you actually need better braking, I'd go whole hog with the 6-piston AP kit or else go with the Brembo upgrade calipers (which are the same price as those rotaras). I'm personally taking it easy on the track until someone comes out with a decent two-piece rotor, and hoping that solves any problems. Since I'm tracking for fun, not to shave seconds off my time, that solution will probably work for me. If I were really chasing lap times, I'd follow Travis' lead...

RCZ 09-13-2009 09:54 PM

Exactly what he said ^.

myfirstz 09-13-2009 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imag (Post 197884)
Are you getting them for looks or because you're actually running up against the limits of the stock brakes?

If for looks, I'd say spending $2K to have slightly larger brake calipers is ranks high on the list of things humans do that I don't understand - but these are probably the cheapest way to do it.

If you actually need better braking, I'd go whole hog with the 6-piston AP kit or else go with the Brembo upgrade calipers (which are the same price as those rotaras). I'm personally taking it easy on the track until someone comes out with a decent two-piece rotor, and hoping that solves any problems. Since I'm tracking for fun, not to shave seconds off my time, that solution will probably work for me. If I were really chasing lap times, I'd follow Travis' lead...

Not for looks. Performance. Thanks for your input.

myfirstz 09-13-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 197887)
Exactly what he said ^.

I get the picture...

Mike 09-13-2009 10:03 PM

I have powdercoated several sets of them, along with every other type on the market and I can't see any physical reason why they would be inferior. When I coat, I totally break them down and reassemble them and these don't have any visible flaws

nogoodname 09-13-2009 10:04 PM

well, if you buy the TT, it's good to get

JoeD 09-13-2009 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by imag (Post 197884)
Are you getting them for looks or because you're actually running up against the limits of the stock brakes?

If for looks, I'd say spending $2K to have slightly larger brake calipers is ranks high on the list of things humans do that I don't understand - but these are probably the cheapest way to do it.

If you actually need better braking, I'd go whole hog with the 6-piston AP kit or else go with the Brembo upgrade calipers (which are the same price as those rotaras). I'm personally taking it easy on the track until someone comes out with a decent two-piece rotor, and hoping that solves any problems. Since I'm tracking for fun, not to shave seconds off my time, that solution will probably work for me. If I were really chasing lap times, I'd follow Travis' lead...

:iagree::iagree:

Nothing makes me LOL more than a BBBBK (bling bling big-brake kit). Ya know...the one's you see on E46 M3s behind HRE wheels which have never even seen a track?

if you are looking for a proper brake setup, look into the upper-end Brembo kits, AP, Alcons, or even StopTechs.

nogoodname 09-13-2009 10:09 PM

get these:

12 Piston with 380mm rotors with a 4 piston 380mm rear
http://myg37.com/forums/brakes-suspe...et-on-a-g.html

myfirstz 09-13-2009 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 197909)
well, if you buy the TT, it's good to get

That's why I'm asking. I'm planning to TT the car soon. I'm not buying for looks, that's absurd to spend that kind of money just for looks. I'd rather paint them if I was going that route.Thanks for all those who provided their input.

nogoodname 09-13-2009 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by myfirstz (Post 197931)
That's why I'm asking. I'm planning to TT the car soon. I'm not buying for looks, that's absurd to spend that kind of money just for looks. I'd rather paint them if I was going that route.Thanks for all those who provided their input.

check the link i posted above

myfirstz 09-13-2009 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 197932)
check the link i posted above

I did. I'll pass on that. I'm just gonna wait until I get the TT then I'll look into it.

nogoodname 09-13-2009 10:31 PM

lol.... 12 pistons is a bit much..... it takes up like half of the rotor itself


there's a few TT'ed G37 that didnt upgrade the brakes, you should be fine too

myfirstz 09-13-2009 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 197963)
lol.... 12 pistons is a bit much..... it takes up like half of the rotor itself


there's a few TT'ed G37 that didnt upgrade the brakes, you should be fine too

Well, I guess I can do without them for now. But those Brakes are SO huge.

I'm planning to track the car. I'll make a decision when the time comes.

RCZ 09-13-2009 10:56 PM

If you are planning to track the car then get the AP Racing 6-pots or the Brembo 6-pots.

myfirstz 09-13-2009 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 198024)
If you are planning to track the car then get the AP Racing 6-pots or the Brembo 6-pots.

After doing more research, I'm leaning towards AP but I haven't ruled out Brembo. It appears Brembo has more of a price premium to it.

JoeD 09-13-2009 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 197914)
get these:

12 Piston with 380mm rotors with a 4 piston 380mm rear
New BBK, I think it could be the biggest yet on a G - MyG37

I know you're being sarcastic, but just to add a side-note...anything more than 6-piston is a complete waste and/or only for show.

As RCZ mentioned...you can't go wrong with an AP or Brembo 6-piston setup. And, not to open up a different can of worms, but try to avoid drilled-rotors.

nogoodname 09-13-2009 11:31 PM

he's right, stay away from drilled as they tend to crack.

slotted rotors are the way to go

kannibul 09-14-2009 12:13 AM

8 pistons?

As far as I'm concerned that's 16 points of potential failure. I can't wait for the "6-bladed razor" version to come out.

:D

And that's my cranky-assed opinion.

RCZ 09-14-2009 08:17 AM

The pads are what touch the rotor and those spread the pressure mostly evenly anyway.

And yes, I would lean towards the AP's as well. Personally, I don't think you need a BBK though...I think you just need some rotors and pads for what you are going to be doing..99% of people who buy BBK's don't need them.

JoeD 09-14-2009 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 198239)
And yes, I would lean towards the AP's as well. Personally, I don't think you need a BBK though...I think you just need some rotors and pads for what you are going to be doing..99% of people who buy BBK's don't need them.

Again...I cannot agree more.

It's a common misconception among the lesser-informed that BBKs actually lower stopping-distances and make for better/safer brakes on the street. That couldn't be farther from the truth (aside from extreme cases, from say 100+ to 0 MPH). To some extent, big-brakes actually increase stopping-distances on the street due to more aggressive and track-oriented pad-compounds included in the kit which work at their optimum level at higher temperatures vs. factory brakes designed to function in a wider temperature range. While cruising on the freeway for 10+ minutes with relatively cold brakes, if the need for a panic-stop were to arise...I'd rather be on stock brakes.

Big-brakes are only beneficial on the track under repetitious hard braking. After numerous laps, a proper setup should perform just as well as the first few, where as the factory brake would have been bien cuit at that point. :)

Yeah...BBKs bought solely for bling tick me off. :)

Paul@AEperformance 09-14-2009 06:03 PM

Brembo,PMU, AP, or Stop-Tech.

Brembo Mono-6 or PMU Racing 6 pot, if you want the performance and the Bling.

The AP's are more of a value. There what were running on our car and performance wise seem to be plenty for circut duty.

Lots of other options on the market to consider b4 Rotora's

:tiphat:

TARDCORE 09-14-2009 06:07 PM

Why? Smoke em if you got em. If you have the money what else you are you going to spend it on? Hookers? I can't wait to ge the Z jus to put tons and tons of money into. It will get track time but willow springs is so far away and we only go 1 to 2 times a year anyway. Anyway the way I see it is it is your car and when people see a car with a BBK they always... and i mean always knock it. most of them don't have one themselves so you can figure it out on your own.

JoeD 09-14-2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TARDCORE (Post 198832)
Why? Smoke em if you got em. If you have the money what else you are you going to spend it on? Hookers? I can't wait to ge the Z jus to put tons and tons of money into.

Call me crazy, but some people enjoy building wealth versus living paycheck-to-paycheck senselessly blowing "tons and tons of money" on a car.

Ozzy 370Z 09-14-2009 07:10 PM

My advice would be go for some Alcon's 6 spot brakes.

1slow370 09-15-2009 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 198862)
Call me crazy, but some people enjoy building wealth versus living paycheck-to-paycheck senselessly blowing "tons and tons of money" on a car.

You ain't liven if it isn't paycheck to paycheck:eekdance:

On a serious note the sport brakes were more than the tires could handle in my case but then again I'm a trail braker. It's gets a little shaky up front for my liking so i would do a tire upgrade first before brakes. I here good things about the nitto NTO5's? might be NT5's not sure on that. The 1's looked like track only at least the 5's had some tread.

370z4Steve 09-15-2009 09:01 AM

they are very reputable..have you seen their parts catalog?... they have stuff for virtually every make. I had them on my 350z and LOVED them..one of the best mods I had on the car..

Modshack 09-15-2009 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 197963)
lol.... 12 pistons is a bit much..... it takes up like half of the rotor itself

Yeah...Everyone knows you only need 8....:rofl2:

http://images109.fotki.com/v782/phot...SCF0009-vi.jpg

JoeD 09-15-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 199748)
Yeah...Everyone knows you only need 8....:rofl2:

http://images109.fotki.com/v782/phot...SCF0009-vi.jpg

Wow! :icon14:

Looks like they could have fit a third caliper on there but chose not to. They probably saved that for the race setup.

370Ztune 09-15-2009 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imag (Post 197884)
Are you getting them for looks or because you're actually running up against the limits of the stock brakes?

If for looks, I'd say spending $2K to have slightly larger brake calipers is ranks high on the list of things humans do that I don't understand - but these are probably the cheapest way to do it.

If you actually need better braking, I'd go whole hog with the 6-piston AP kit or else go with the Brembo upgrade calipers (which are the same price as those rotaras). I'm personally taking it easy on the track until someone comes out with a decent two-piece rotor, and hoping that solves any problems. Since I'm tracking for fun, not to shave seconds off my time, that solution will probably work for me. If I were really chasing lap times, I'd follow Travis' lead...

:iagree:

If acquiring brakes for performance, I personally suggest Endless.

Just my .02.

-Hunter

JB-370z 12-20-2009 08:20 PM

Does any one know why the sport cost $2000 and base cost $3600 in the 15" 8 pot?????
$1600 more on the base, that does not seem right.......

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/b...d=8&class_8=15



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ChrisSlicks 12-21-2009 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imag (Post 197884)
Are you getting them for looks or because you're actually running up against the limits of the stock brakes?

If for looks, I'd say spending $2K to have slightly larger brake calipers is ranks high on the list of things humans do that I don't understand - but these are probably the cheapest way to do it.

If you actually need better braking, I'd go whole hog with the 6-piston AP kit or else go with the Brembo upgrade calipers (which are the same price as those rotaras). I'm personally taking it easy on the track until someone comes out with a decent two-piece rotor, and hoping that solves any problems. Since I'm tracking for fun, not to shave seconds off my time, that solution will probably work for me. If I were really chasing lap times, I'd follow Travis' lead...

Yeah, the AP setup on sale was only slightly more than this and has a much better reputation. But as others have said you probably don't need a brake upgrade, just a pad upgrade. If you want a slight bling upgrade get the stock sport calipers powdercoated.

JB-370z 12-21-2009 11:16 AM

I have base model and I will be doing track days once a month.

Just wondering if I have 19" wheels if I can put the sport model rotora 15" on or if I have to buy the base model rotoras that cost 1600 more??????

ChrisSlicks 12-21-2009 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 335811)
I have base model and I will be doing track days once a month.

Just wondering if I have 19" wheels if I can put the sport model rotora 15" on or if I have to buy the base model rotoras that cost 1600 more??????

My assumption is that the sport model package would work. Both the sport and the base have the same caliper mounting points, so the only difference I can see is the size of the rotors and the caliper.

However I would do lots of research on the company and the performance of their products before purchasing, as it could turn out to be a big waste of money.

JB-370z 12-21-2009 11:41 AM

If feel ya. I just called vivid racing and they said that the 2000 dallor price tag is an typo, and they are more like 3400-3600
Sounded way to cheap for 8 piston bbk
I think all I would need is 6 pot at the very most if even that!

JB-370z 12-21-2009 11:49 AM

I had stoptech's on the rsx and I loved them, they worked very good with the turbo setup I had. I could track for long runs with little to no fade, forgot what pad I had but it never got out of hand when it came to brake dust! Maybe I should just take a look at stoptech and forget the rotora. Not worried about the bling I just need to upgrade the base brakes cause supercharger is coming soon and I want the car ready to hit the track when I get it! If I had sport brakes I would not worry about it but base brakes seem to fade quickly!

ChrisSlicks 12-21-2009 12:13 PM

The Stoptech 15" rotor requires a 19" front wheel as well, where as the AP racing setup uses a 14.25" rotor letting you squeeze on an 18" wheel. I went with AP partly because of allowing 18" wheels, partly from their history and reputation, and partly because I knew Stillen would offer great support. Buying at 20% off helped sweeten the deal. :)

JB-370z 12-21-2009 12:35 PM

Thanks that sounds like a good idea. That way I can get my 19" for show and 18" for track days. Is ap as good as stoptech?

ChrisSlicks 12-21-2009 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 335897)
Thanks that sounds like a good idea. That way I can get my 19" for show and 18" for track days. Is ap as good as stoptech?

I'm not going to knock on Stoptech as I think they make good products but AP Racing has the racing heritage and I've never heard anyone say anything but good things about AP and their products. Historically they've been one of the top suppliers to F1, motorcycle racing, touring car, rally, and more recently NASCAR. They were the first to supply a brake system that could survive the 24 hours of Le Mans without a pad change.

ChrisSlicks 12-21-2009 01:35 PM

Just found out that they have a 1-day only sale today, and you get Stillen bucks as well!

Stillen Specials


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