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edconline 05-07-2014 08:56 AM

Which ones do you suggest, the .5 or the 1mm? Also is fitment like stock, with tabs to keep it nice and secure on the pad?


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synolimit 05-07-2014 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DR_ (Post 2809438)
With the Hard Brakes titanium backing plates they don't squeal on the street near as much.

How does something on the back change the squeal on the front? Also, with such a little plate has anyone actually done independent testing they reduce caliper heat soak?

wstar 05-07-2014 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by edconline (Post 2809461)
Which ones do you suggest, the .5 or the 1mm? Also is fitment like stock, with tabs to keep it nice and secure on the pad?

They do have tabs, and personally I'd suggest the thinner one so you don't have issues trying to squish the plate + a new pad into there (or have to try to shave down your pads),

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2809468)
How does something on the back change the squeal on the front? Also, with such a little plate has anyone actually done independent testing they reduce caliper heat soak?

A lot of the squeal really isn't from the mating surface, even though it sounds like it. They did objectively reduce heat back when I first tried them (sport calipers + CT pads). I use them now on the front of my Stillen kit, too (different shape).

edconline 05-07-2014 09:25 AM

Cool thanks! Any idea on the thickness of the stock shims?


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edconline 05-07-2014 10:30 AM

0.5mm shims are on the way, thanks for the suggestion DR_


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SPOHN 05-07-2014 03:57 PM

I had the XP 10's/ 8's. The 8's on the rear were aggressive at times on the track. I had 6 piston AP BBK on front and Akeobono (if that's the right spelling) on the rear. So not sure if the setup/ bias is off but it would be safer with less aggressive pads.

djtodd 05-07-2014 05:55 PM

Off topic but in response to the earlier comment, I also would recommend something else for dd. The bobcats are great, if a little pricey. Much less dust and easier on rotors

edconline 05-07-2014 06:03 PM

SPOHN, did you have the akebono 4 pots on the rear? I can see them being a bit overpowered for the rear in that scenario. And are you saying you encountered ice mode, or just that it was a bit much?

Aside from if I could expect ice mode issues, I don't see a compelling reason not to use these on the street TBH.


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synolimit 05-07-2014 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by edconline (Post 2810052)
SPOHN, did you have the akebono 4 pots on the rear? I can see them being a bit overpowered for the rear in that scenario. And are you saying you encountered ice mode, or just that it was a bit much?

Aside from if I could expect ice mode issues, I don't see a compelling reason not to use these on the street TBH.


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He said he had them on the rear.

What I want to know is what did he mean by to aggressive. Like do a 10/6 or 8/8 or 8/6?

edconline 05-07-2014 06:49 PM

He said akebono rear not if they were the two pot stock rear or if he put the stock fronts on there.


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djtodd 05-07-2014 06:54 PM

Pretty sure they were the stock two pot. 10/8 worked well for me on street tires.

wstar 05-07-2014 06:55 PM

Yeah 10/8 seems to be a pretty good setup with the stock calipers and street tires.

edconline 05-07-2014 06:56 PM

ABS with Carbotechs
 
Can someone give me a good reason not to use them on street? Everyone is kinda like 'not a good idea'. I know they cost more. I know they dust more and are louder, I know they will wear quickly. They will eat rotors faster. They need heat to work really well. None of those bother me and I expected all of them.

Aside from all that, is there another reason?

Edit: with all the people telling me not to do it, my original post didn't even get answered lol

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synolimit 05-07-2014 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by edconline (Post 2810086)
He said akebono rear not if they were the two pot stock rear or if he put the stock fronts on there.


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O god that'd be impossible. I know he didn't though. That'd be a crazy setup.

synolimit 05-07-2014 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by edconline (Post 2810090)
Can someone give me a good reason not to use them on street? Everyone is kinda like 'not a good idea'. I know they cost more. I know they dust more and are louder, I know they will wear quickly. They will eat rotors faster. They need heat to work really well. None of those bother me and I expected all of them.

Aside from all that, is there another reason?


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I googled them a lot one time and always found people say no but no reasons why. Even found some running in winter states.


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