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ZackMorris 04-28-2014 07:44 AM

Parking break failure
 
so last night I was lucky enough to catch my beautiful 370z rolling backwards down a hill towards oncoming traffic due to parking break failure.

I always put the car in the appropriate gear when parking on a hill an turning the car off. I was running across the street to use an atm an left the car on assuming the parking break wasnt garbage.

I herd a noise which caused me to turn around and see it rolling backwards. I ran an jumped in so quick that i caught it before it really got bad but the worst part is the front an back rim on that side have curbrash all around them just the very thin lip where the rim an tire meet.

The car is four weeks old bought it used with 30xxx. is this something even worthy of callin the **** dealership i bought it from over?

Honestly thinking about trying to get ahold of the bank to see if they have it on a security camera to show you guys

JARblue 04-28-2014 07:49 AM

That sucks dude. I would absolutely call the dealership. I'm not sure they'll do anything for you (I wouldn't expect it but on the rare occasion they surprise even me). If you can get some security footage that shows the car stopped when you get out and then rolling away after something failed, you will probably have a better chance with them. If they cop an attitude or just flat refuse to help, I usually find it a little cathartic to curse them for being a typical dealer$hit. After that, I would probably call my insurance.

There is a thread around here somewhere for adjusting the parking brake. I would definitely check that out.

onzedge 04-28-2014 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2797888)
That sucks dude. I would absolutely call the dealership. I'm not sure they'll do anything for you (I wouldn't expect it but on the rare occasion they surprise even me). If you can get some security footage that shows the car stopped when you get out and then rolling away after something failed, you will probably have a better chance with them. If they cop an attitude or just flat refuse to help, I usually find it a little cathartic to curse them for being a typical dealer$hit. After that, I would probably call my insurance.

There is a thread around here somewhere for adjusting the parking brake. I would definitely check that out.

:iagree:

ZackMorris 04-28-2014 08:08 AM

Thanks for the help

Im getting ready to call the dealership now and will call pnc bank afterwards just for laughs.
it wasnt a driver error i was worried about that but when you made you comment i realized the vid will show the car not moving for about fifteen seconds then out of no where that happened.

DR_ 04-28-2014 08:17 AM

In most states it is illegal to leave a car running and walking away from them.

ZackMorris 04-28-2014 08:25 AM

YDR 911 | Police reminder: It’s illegal to leave cars running in Pennsylvania

you were right. i guess its a good thing im too lazy this morning to have made those calls by now.

DEpointfive0 04-28-2014 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DR_ (Post 2797924)
In most states it is illegal to leave a car running and walking away from them.

Wow, I didn't know that. I do it all the time

What about "Bait Car"


EDIT: looks like there is no law for CA, LOL

onzedge 04-28-2014 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2797991)
Wow, I didn't know that. I do it all the time.

What about "Bait Car"

:icon17:

JARblue 04-28-2014 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DR_ (Post 2797924)
In most states it is illegal to leave a car running and walking away from them.

Excellent point. The term in the Texas Transportation Code is "unattended". I do not know if there is a definition for that. You might have an argument that you did not leave your vehicle unattended if you didn't walk too far from it.

*edit* I found records of police ticketing people at airports for an unattended vehicle when getting out to load luggage for a passenger they are picking up. I would never think to turn off my vehicle when doing that. How about tow truck drivers that leave their vehicle running for power while they winch a vehicle? Guess I'll have to be more mindful of this going forward.

JARblue 04-28-2014 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2797991)
What about "Bait Car"

Law enforcement doesn't have to obey the law :wtf2:

Especially when they are on TV :icon17:

JARblue 04-28-2014 09:49 AM

I saw an episode of bait car where they parked it in front of some lady's driveway (fvcking idiots). She went out and stood around the car for a few minutes looking around for the owner. Finally she got in and moved the car a few feet so she could exit her own driveway in her own car. They pulled her over and interrogated her like a criminal. She was like I need to go pick up my kids from school and someone left their car running in front of my driveway, so I moved it out of the way. Thankfully they weren't complete a$$holes and apologized and sent her on her way. I can't say I would have been as polite as she was :icon17:

onzedge 04-28-2014 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2797995)
Law enforcement doesn't have to obey the law :wtf2:

Especially when they are on TV :icon17:

:icon17:

Troyz 04-28-2014 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ZackMorris (Post 2797880)
parking break failure.

I always put the car in the appropriate gear when parking on a hill an turning the car off.

The car is four weeks old bought it used with 30xxx. is this something even worthy of callin the **** dealership i bought it from over

I assumed most newer vehicles with Automatic Transmissions won't allow you to turn off the car in any gear other than N or P? :confused:

Unless my car is sitting in my garage I always put my M6 in gear with the emergency brake engaged. And if I am on a hill I angle my front tires to go into the curve in case the above fails.

Can you reproduce this?

I think the dealership could be liable for selling you an unsafe car. At the very least they should fix your transmission for no charge for something overlooked during a safety inspection.

People have been killed by vehicles jumping out of park. If you had even a sip of beer and your Z ran over a pedestrian I bet you would be sitting in jail right now eating green eggs and ham.

ZackMorris 04-28-2014 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Troyz (Post 2798121)
I assumed most newer vehicles with Automatic Transmissions won't allow you to turn off the car in any gear other than N or P? :confused:

Unless my car is sitting in my garage I always put my M6 in gear with the emergency brake engaged. And if I am on a hill I angle my front tires to go into the curve in case the above fails.

Can you reproduce this?

I think the dealership could be liable for selling you an unsafe car. At the very least they should fix your transmission for no charge for something overlooked during a safety inspection.

People have been killed by vehicles jumping out of park. If you had even a sip of beer and your Z ran over a pedestrian I bet you would be sitting in jail right now eating green eggs and ham.


Yeah that's why i was worried i was coming back from the casino an wanted to deposit my winnings into my account through the ATM machine. It is a six speed that is why i had this problem. I always put it in first or reverse when i park but i just figured id leave the car running for a minute. honestly think its because when idling the shift knob vibrates pretty aggressively and maybe that had something to do with it no idea though

JARblue 04-28-2014 01:39 PM

I'm not thinking it was transmission related. Try this: http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...make-work.html

kenchan 04-28-2014 01:42 PM

but he heard a sound before the car started rolling, right? :confused:

a pin or something broke or??

ive not had any issues on my nissans's ebrake the past 10+yrs...

JARblue 04-28-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2798464)
but he heard a sound before the car started rolling, right? :confused:

a pin or something broke or??

ive not had any issues on my nissans's ebrake the past 10+yrs...

Yeah he said a noise. I was just assuming he was close enough to hear the tires start rolling. I wasn't thinking like you say.

Definitely get it checked out at the dealer. I'd test it out on a hill and see if it's working at all.

Troyz 04-28-2014 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ZackMorris (Post 2798441)
Yeah that's why i was worried i was coming back from the casino an wanted to deposit my winnings into my account through the ATM machine. It is a six speed that is why i had this problem. I always put it in first or reverse when i park but i just figured id leave the car running for a minute. honestly think its because when idling the shift knob vibrates pretty aggressively and maybe that had something to do with it no idea though

6 Speed and you let it run with E-Brake on a slope?!? :ughdance:

JARblue 04-28-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Troyz (Post 2798514)
6 Speed and you let it run with E-Brake on a slope?!? :ughdance:

There are guys who don't put their MT in gear when they park, regardless of whether it's on a hill or not.

While I prefer the extra safety of transmission and e-brake, plenty of people use only the parking brake without issue. I don't necessarily agree with the method, but I don't see any difference whether the car is running or not. If your parking brake is working properly, you shouldn't have any problems. If not... :eekdance: (which is why I prefer and would recommend in gear + e-brake when parking).

ZackMorris 04-28-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2798562)
There are guys who don't put their MT in gear when they park, regardless of whether it's on a hill or not.

While I prefer the extra safety of transmission and e-brake, plenty of people use only the parking brake without issue. I don't necessarily agree with the method, but I don't see any difference whether the car is running or not. If your parking brake is working properly, you shouldn't have any problems. If not... :eekdance: (which is why I prefer and would recommend in gear + e-brake when parking).

i live in pa which is a hill anywhere you look. Ive had a MT since i bought an si 5 years ago. i always put the car in gear when parking on a hill (but that can only be done when the car is off) i hate the noise the z makes when it shuts off so i try to keep that to a minimum..

kenchan 04-28-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ZackMorris (Post 2798589)
i live in pa which is a hill anywhere you look. Ive had a MT since i bought an si 5 years ago. i always put the car in gear when parking on a hill (but that can only be done when the car is off) i hate the noise the z makes when it shuts off so i try to keep that to a minimum..

wat noise you speak of? mine just goes silent. :ugh:

122554 04-28-2014 08:34 PM

Did you "Break" it? Or where you speaking of the emergency "Brake"

DEpointfive0 04-28-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 122554 (Post 2799011)
Did you "Break" it? Or where you speaking of the emergency "Brake"

I was thinking... This was the first time I'll let it slide.

This really was a parking BREAK

synolimit 04-28-2014 10:35 PM

In for what broke but maybe his wheels hitting the curb is what he heard.

Doesn't a parking brake need adjusted every once in a while? There is a set screw behind the rotor. At 30k from him buying used, maybe its worn out some.

edconline 04-28-2014 11:38 PM

I never park in gear, no matter what. But then I would never park on a hill, even if I had to park at the bottom and walk up, just paranoid!

Now that said, from day 1 my parking brake was junk. Every time I wanted to set it I had to get bruce banner over just to give it enough force to even engage. Luckily I found the DIY to fixing it that has kindly been posted here already, no issues since :tup:

ZackMorris 04-29-2014 07:23 AM

honestly the noise i heard sounded like the noise it makes when i take the parking break off but just as if it did it by itself quickly. it wasnt until i made it to the car an had the door open that i heard the wheels hitting the curb. In the heat of the moment i cant even remember if the parking break lever? was still engaged or if it had snapped back and i havent driven the car since ill post pics an take a look when i get home.

THanks for all the responses and no one getting on me about my punctuation spelling beginner knowledge of my automobile and all its parts and terminology. Anyone live around pittsburgh?

Fountainhead 04-29-2014 05:43 PM

My PB needed adjusting at 11,000 miles when I bought it. Just a few turns of the screw were enough to get it working right.


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