Front camber arm selection?
 

I am looking to get about 2 degree of camber on my car, the car would be used for track mostly. I am looking to see what options I have. It seems like the big companies are SPL and SPC. I do not like the Kinetic setup. Are there other good companies I am missing? I understand the SPL unit is awesome, but it is twice the price, is it really worth while to drop $700 for camber arms?

Also how hard is it to install it. I assume popping the balljoint at the top is the hardest?

Thanks

Nothing wrong with the kinetix. It's proven.

I had Eibach, just upgraded to SPL - reason, Eibach was getting more difficult to hold its camber as the car is getting more arduous track-day usage with more agressive settings. I have also moved away from 245/40R18 fronts to 265/35R18 fronts and am getting "a lot" more front-end grip.

RB

I have the SPC upper control arms, which I assume is the same as your control arms and they're awesome. You have soo much adjustability with them not only for camber but caster as well. I recommend getting them and even look around for a "combo pack" of the adjustable upper control arms as well as rear camber arms.

Plus very simple to install

You have Doran arms (camber only), SPL arms (camber and caster, lots of adjustment for both), SPC arms (camber, very little caster) and then everyone else (camber only for the most part). I went with the SPL's. Worth the wait. ;) Here's my thread on the install to give you an idea on what it takes. Figure about 2hrs per side, depending on your skill level.

http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspen...uspension.html

I don't mind spl, just hard for me to sink 700 into it when I just dropped 2k on suspension

Unless you reenforce SPC or eibach, they're gonna slip. The fact that SPC have broke in the rear makes me say no on that and any package deal. Doran are probably as much as SPL so you really only have a few few options. Drop the cash, spend more to make something better, or just get what others have with good luck at least for a easy install and no worries about changing alignment. I don't know enough about geo to constantly be at an alignment shop changing settings and spending money so whatever caster ends up being is what its gonna be.

Do this if you must go with SPC and track...at least you will avoid slippage and having to pay to realign the car

http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspen...r-arm-fix.html

^^^That's the mod I'm taking about but by the time and money the OP spends modding the SPC he might as well buy the SPL.

However I had this idea about the SPC slippage...drill two holes, put bolts through with nuts holding them down, then drill holes in the corners of each bolt and two sides of the SPC large nut and safety wire it closed. If you torque to at least 150lbs and safety wire, it's going no where.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ps3f025279.jpg

SPL is all you need. SPC is fine also as long as you torque to 150lbs but the nut on top won't last long and get stripped. But there very cheap to replace. And I worried about the rubber insert bushings giving out

SPL really is all you need, we sell other camber arms but the SPL is by far the most well designed arm.

It may cost more, but the benefits, ease of adjustability, and the fact that you can count on nothing coming loose, justify the price. At least for me

Corner4 garage made a couple sets in the Kinetix style with steel arms and metal sphericals.

If you can wait for later in winter I'll trade for your transponder.

the new voodoo13 arms look as solid and simpler to adjust than the SPL, and that isn't trying to knock on SPL either.

Yeah, the SPL units look great, but the voodoo13 ones do look a lot simpler to set up and maintain.

I don't know about being simpler to adjust. The SPL's only need 3/16" allen to tighten down the adjustment points and a 1/2" socket to adjust the camber and caster. And you can reach them from over the top of the tire. The voodoo13 arms look like you need a wrench to tighten down the adjustment. That might be hard to get in there.

The voodoo are adjusted at the outer ends of the control arms, bolts that face outwards

Yeah, you would have to turn the tire to one side to get in there to adjust and tighten. SPL's, all you need is 1/2"drive, 1/2" socket on an 18" extension going over the top of tire to adjust. To tighten, a 3/16" allen socket on a 3/8" drive extension, up from the bottom. No turning of the tire to side, then the other side to adjust and tighten. Rememeber I just been through this. ;)

Are the SPL front camber arms or voodoo13 arms for sale anywhere yet? I wanted to adjust some of my negative camber out of the front, but didn't wanna go with SPC.

You can get the SPL arms from corner3garge now. Think the voodoo13 arms might be released next month.

Any idea on the pricing? I am hoping to not spend $700 on camber arms arggggg

Bend over and spread them. The SPL's are about $700. By the looks of the voodoo13's. They're going to be higher I bet when they come out.

time to go work the street corner

Just pimp yourself here on the forum. Bet you get a few hits. :eek:

Beats having no gf

Don't go cheap on the cambers. Ask mike at corner 3 about some of the SPC horror stories or find martin's link on the SPC rear cambers with pics of his car afterwards. I saw it first hand when they finally got it on a lift at corner 3...He's lucky to not be dead and it ruined his entire suspension + I don't know what else. 8 grand and 5 or so weeks later he is back on the track.

What if your not tracking? I am looking for some camber for the front but I just drive on the street around town and sometimes go for a trip from Vegas to LA? Any ideas on what you guys would recommend? Can I get away with other arms?

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To me personally SPL for track. And SPC only for other uses. I don't care for the design of others. With the SPC make sure you tighten the top nut to about 125lbs. Also order extra bolts. There only like $5.

Same thing for spirited street driving? :driving:

Just came from AMS website and they have the ball joint type, dont know if it replaces the joint or if its just a replacement.

Disreguard it's a replacement for aftermarket types.

I just wanna stress that the Kinetix arms are FINE for street driving and even the track if you're okay with a steel arm and more limited adjustment range.

Don't be afraid to give them a try, they're so inexpensive.

I haven't heard many good things about AMS and the build quality of their parts.

For normal street wear, I am still a bit iffy on the SPC. I personally wouldn't do it. But there are guys here that have used them and done just fine. For track usage, I think that question has been answered by several people. But it's sort of like asking,"I know this thing might break and kill me, but I will save 400 bucks."

Do they slip like the SPC kit does?