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Nuccigucci 11-01-2013 06:02 PM

Bad Front end traction
 
I've had this problem for a while now where I feel whenever I drive the car it feels like the front wheels are floating or like they're on ice. To be honest my tires aren't in the greatest of shape but it hasn't felt right in a while. My guess is that the alignment is off? From what I see the wheels a toed out a little and the camber almost looks positive also. The tire wear is also not normal I have wear on the inside and out side but I have a lot of tread in the middle which is why I think it is my alignment, I could be wrong this is why I'm asking you guys before I go ahead and do anything. It's also way worse when the road is wet which I feel like that's just the tires.

Also in the read my tires only wear on the inside could my alignment be that off?

DEpointfive0 11-01-2013 06:07 PM

Alignment issues big time

andre12031948 11-01-2013 06:10 PM

you're kidding???
 
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Originally Posted by Nuccigucci (Post 2551410)
I've had this problem for a while now where I feel whenever I drive the car it feels like the front wheels are floating or like they're on ice. To be honest my tires aren't in the greatest of shape but it hasn't felt right in a while. My guess is that the alignment is off? From what I see the wheels a toed out a little and the camber almost looks positive also. The tire wear is also not normal I have wear on the inside and out side but I have a lot of tread in the middle which is why I think it is my alignment, I could be wrong this is why I'm asking you guys before I go ahead and do anything. It's also way worse when the road is wet which I feel like that's just the tires.

Also in the read my tires only wear on the inside could my alignment be that off?

Don't you realize that your tires have VERY LOW air pressure???

Nuccigucci 11-01-2013 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2551422)
Don't you realize that your tires have VERY LOW air pressure???

I checked multiple times they're spot on

Nuccigucci 11-01-2013 06:13 PM

I'll check again when I get back to my fire house in an hour

andre12031948 11-01-2013 06:14 PM

Imposible
 
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Originally Posted by Nuccigucci (Post 2551426)
I checked multiple times they're spot on

What is your front tire pressure? Maybe you have a broken air guage.

andre12031948 11-01-2013 06:18 PM

This is a fact
 
When you have very low pressure the center of tire thread caves in & you're driving on the outside threads. When you have too much air, the center threads blow out & you would be driving on the center threads. Einstein proved it! E=mc2 !!!!

Nuccigucci 11-01-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2551437)
What is your front tire pressure? Maybe you have a broken air guage.

I'm going to check now also the tire light isn't on so they can't be that low they don't even look it

andre12031948 11-01-2013 06:26 PM

when you have only an inch of each side of the tire
 
making contact with road, the car will feel like chit. That's from Isaac Newton's laws of motion :icon14:

Nuccigucci 11-01-2013 06:29 PM

I understand that but I check my tires periodically and always make sure they're okay like I said before the light never came on

andre12031948 11-01-2013 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nuccigucci (Post 2551448)
I'm going to check now also the tire light isn't on so they can't be that low they don't even look it

You did say that it's wearing out on the outside.

Nuccigucci 11-01-2013 06:47 PM

Okay just checked all four corners they were all at 40psi after driving for 15 mins I did find that my drivers side front tire is actually on backwards the other three are on correctly I still don't think that that's what's throwing everything off

andre12031948 11-01-2013 06:51 PM

all joking aside
 
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Originally Posted by Nuccigucci (Post 2551474)
Okay just checked all four corners they were all at 40psi after driving for 15 mins I did find that my drivers side front tire is actually on backwards the other three are on correctly I still don't think that that's what's throwing everything off

There's something wrong somewhere. With 40 psi you should be riding/wearing out the CENTER of tires. 30 to 34 psi is normal for most cars/tires.

andre12031948 11-01-2013 06:54 PM

burn a strip of rubber
 
burn some rubber. I'm curious how the rubber strip looks like.

With my tires I get the fullest/biggest rubber strip with apx. 26-28 psi

What wheels do you have???

Chuck33079 11-01-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2551480)
burn some rubber. I'm curious how the rubber strip looks like.

How would the front tires leave rubber on the ground? It seems like the alignment is way off.

andre12031948 11-01-2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2551483)
How would the front tires leave rubber on the ground? It seems like the alignment is way off.

He has 40psi in the rear. just want to see if the whole thread makes road contact.

andre12031948 11-01-2013 07:01 PM

????
 
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2551483)
How would the front tires leave rubber on the ground? It seems like the alignment is way off.

HOW could a bad alignment wear out the inside & outside of the tires?

Chuck33079 11-01-2013 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2551487)
HOW could a bad alignment wear out the inside & outside of the tires?

Positive camber and toe out?

andre12031948 11-01-2013 07:08 PM

Car moded??? After market wider wheels???
 
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2551491)
Positive camber and toe out?

or I give up. Niss. DEALER time.

Nuccigucci 11-01-2013 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2551480)
burn some rubber. I'm curious how the rubber strip looks like.

With my tires I get the fullest/biggest rubber strip with apx. 26-28 psi

What wheels do you have???

I have the stock sport wheels with 295 proxis 4 on the back I'm not too worried about the rear cause I'm pretty sure it needs a camber adjustment

Nuccigucci 11-01-2013 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2551491)
Positive camber and toe out?

That's exactly my guess I'm going to take it to my alignment guy as soon as my new front tires come in

Nuccigucci 11-01-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2551497)
or I give up. Niss. DEALER time.

That's my last resort I have an 09 so I'm pretty sure I'm out of warrantee for a problem like this

Chuck33079 11-01-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2551497)
or I give up. Niss. DEALER time.

Or just take it in for an alignment first?

DEpointfive0 11-01-2013 07:14 PM

Yeah, the dealers and most shops will check your alignment for free

synolimit 11-01-2013 07:38 PM

Take a straight edge and push it against the wheel. If its to long the tire will do ok within a 0.1 degree. Get an iPhone since it has a flat edge and download a level app. It will tell us your camber. It should be within 0.2 degree I'd guess. The OEM camber is 0.1 to -1.4.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ps8646821f.jpg

corner3garage 11-01-2013 07:43 PM

Definitely due to tires or alignment.

Tires are one of the main causes of pulling issues as well so keep that in mind.

I would also keep SPL parts in mind if you are looking for some bushing replacements for the front lower arms.

Thanks,
Mike

synolimit 11-01-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by corner3garage (Post 2551541)
Definitely due to tires or alignment.

Tires are one of the main causes of pulling issues as well so keep that in mind.

I would also keep SPL parts in mind if you are looking for some bushing replacements for the front lower arms.

Thanks,
Mike

Mike shoot me a pm if you would on items. I figure when i buy keep it local vs just googling cheapest prices.


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