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fl350z 09-26-2013 09:33 PM

Swift Spring install question
 
I have an important question
I've researched and can't find any pics to reference

I saw one tread that someone had their springs installed upside down and they describe my situation

I am seeing the mechanic tomorrow and want to address the problem if this is the case

Here are some pics for reference

Front
http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/...f53d6a3209.jpg

Rear
http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/...a978d24ed8.jpg

Felix 808 09-26-2013 09:40 PM

Yes, your pic's are with them installed upside down. The close wound coils should be at the top. Plus the logos are upside down ;)

Zbrah 09-26-2013 09:43 PM

Wtf?! How can they make this mistake? Was there any instructions included with the box? The upside down SWiFT logo should have been an indication which side is up lol

critical 09-26-2013 09:44 PM

yep they're upside down! what is your situation? how does this feel?

fl350z 09-26-2013 09:45 PM

I thought so but figured they would know best : (

My curiosity is what got me uneasy and made me post

Thanks for your help guys
And just to confirm you are 100% sure right lol

I emailed swift also to double check
Lol

fl350z 09-26-2013 09:46 PM

It rides fine actually
I was just uneasy since I did see the logo upside down so I wanted to confirm

critical 09-26-2013 10:38 PM

yes 100% sure. logo is upside down-makes no sense. plus i don't think the coils lineup properly with either the cup in the rear or the front shock properly when they're upside down

jlo370z 09-27-2013 07:17 AM

wow the fronts dont even look like they are seated in that picture?

maybe i just dont see it in the picture, looks wierd

fl350z 09-27-2013 07:41 AM

Jlo370z - what do you mean by seated?
I would like to know so I can make sure it is done correctly this time

fl350z 09-27-2013 07:42 AM

Thanks for the input fellas
On the way to the mechanic now to get this all straightened out

critical 09-27-2013 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fl350z (Post 2506919)
Jlo370z - what do you mean by seated?
I would like to know so I can make sure it is done correctly this time

like the very end of the coil should sit on the shock a certain way...it's not a flat surface. and in the rear the shock needs to 'thread' so to speak the rubber piece in a similar fashion. would not trust my car in someone's hand that couldn't figure this out...

edit: see what he's talking about. doesn't even look to be on at all...

jlo370z 09-27-2013 05:45 PM

that spring doesnt look compressed, it looks like its just floating there (front)
there is a top hat with rubber boot and a bottom plate with slight indents the shape of the end of the coils that each end sits in. yours from the photo, looks like it isnt in the bottom one.

could be an optical illusion, idk, just looks like it isnt

MadChemist 09-27-2013 05:53 PM

I agree. They are definitely upside down. The spring won't seat properly because of this. Not seated=spring not properly place in strut or housing so the spring isn't parallel to the strut or spring, tilted. I would be interested to see if the ride height at each corner is the same. My bet is that they aren't the same. Easy fix but I won't trust that mechanic with any else from here out.

loiro370z 09-27-2013 06:52 PM

Take a look here, not the same spring, but nice pictures for comparison.

fl350z 09-27-2013 11:43 PM

Thanks for all the help
I appreciate all the input

Springs fixed : )

Back to the modding lol

Hope everyone has a great weekend

Super Werty 09-27-2013 11:50 PM

How far did you drive it like that?!

fl350z 09-28-2013 08:09 PM

Ok so I got my springs fixed and rear rotors installed

The next day I see that to drive straight I have to tilt my steering wheel to the left
(So instead of the Z on the steering wheel being at a 12 o'clock position it's at a 1030 11 o'clock position to drive straight)

I take it to the dealer to get aligned and see if any work needed to be done if it could be done under warranty (as far as the steering wheel being crooked to drive straight)

He aligns the car but tells me he can only align the bottom part toes and the steering wheel sometimes will not be straight because they can't get it to be on the machine

He says if I want to align the top part camber bolts I have to buy some and he will do them

My question is doesn't my car have these already
I searched google and see them on there

Do the Oem ones not adjust or is he just trying to get one past me

The car is aligned according to him but it still pulls to the right

I attached the alignment sheets

fl350z 09-28-2013 08:11 PM

He says don't buy aftermarket so he can warranty the work

I'm a little skeptical and debating what to do

Any suggestions would be great

Zbrah 09-28-2013 08:29 PM

That guy is full of ****. Take your car to an outside shop to get it aligned, our car already have camber adjustments from the factory. Some people are able to get back to oem camber settings while some will need to get aftermarket camber arms.

fl350z 09-28-2013 08:35 PM

Did a little search
Is this correct
I will only need the rear camber kit on swift springs

http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspen...g-springs.html


I see here the eom ones are not adjustable but do I need these or just the rears
And what are safe specs for daily driving lowered on swift springs

http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspen...alignment.html

fl350z 09-28-2013 08:58 PM

Before alignment:

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/...3829909208.jpg

After alignment:

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/...bdd56907ba.jpg

Nut_N_Much 09-28-2013 09:48 PM

Give it a few months and the springs will settle as long as you drive it and not garage it. :tiphat:

critical 09-28-2013 09:49 PM

what did they do? lol

i'm scared for your Z. quit letting idiots molest it.

fl350z 09-29-2013 05:59 AM

I'm not sure!!! LoL

That's why I would like to fix the situation and am relying on the forum for so guidance

I went to a reliable shop first and then the dealer I figured they should know what to do

Again any input is GREATLY appreciated

I'm going to do some more research in the mean time

critical 09-29-2013 07:07 AM

rear camber is adjustable. it looks like they really didn't do **** to be honest. the front can be adjusted slightly too if they play around with it. you want left and right camber to be even. how much camber will be a preference but shooting for the minimum values here isn't a bad place to start. take it to a place that knows what they're doing and tell them what you want. also, wait a week before you go in to let the springs settle.

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...alignment1.png

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...lalignment.png

fl350z 09-29-2013 12:20 PM

Ok coo
Thanks for the info

I'll post up the new alignment sheets when I go get them done

Thanks for the help!!!


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