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6spd 08-08-2013 08:02 AM
09-12 Shocks Vs. 13-14 Euro Tuned Shocks
 
I recently traded my '09 for a '13. One thing I was curious about was what the "euro-tuned" shocks hype was all about. After driving my old Z 1.5 hours to the dealer and then test driving the '13, I've gotta say, the '13 suspension felt much more flat w/ less body roll. The feeling inspired instant confidence, but at the same time I notice that it was more difficult to sense the limits of traction. This was probably due to unfamiliarity.

After having the car for about a week now and conquering speed bumps, road work, back roads and wet roads, I am very impressed by the change. Not subtle, but not BAM in your face, it left me saying, "this is what I always wanted the stock suspension to feel like."

I'm know there are a few others that switched from the 09-12 to the '13 who can attest to this. I looked around and found nothing comparing the 2 suspensions, so I hope this helps distinguish the differences between the 2.

Sh0velMan 08-08-2013 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 2437339)
I recently traded my '09 for a '13. One thing I was curious about was what the "euro-tuned" shocks hype was all about. After driving my old Z 1.5 hours to the dealer and then test driving the '13, I've gotta say, the '13 suspension felt much more flat w/ less body roll. The feeling inspired instant confidence, but at the same time I notice that it was more difficult to sense the limits of traction. This was probably due to unfamiliarity.

After having the car for about a week now and conquering speed bumps, road work, back roads and wet roads, I am very impressed by the change. Not subtle, but not BAM in your face, it left me saying, "this is what I always wanted the stock suspension to feel like."

I'm know there are a few others that switched from the 09-12 to the '13 who can attest to this. I looked around and found nothing comparing the 2 suspensions, so I hope this helps distinguish the differences between the 2.
As far as body roll, sounds like they changed sway bar specs.

Measurements of the stock bars would be telling, in that regard.

GTLAW 08-08-2013 10:25 AM
What I don't understand is why would they tune the shocks and springs for Euro drivers when the car is made in Japan. You will never see BMW or Audi go, tuned for Japan lol.

It's Japaneses sports car keep it that way, don't get why mix parts.

Sh0velMan 08-08-2013 10:27 AM
It's just marketing drivel.

6spd 08-08-2013 10:46 AM
Yeah its just a marketing name. Pretty much its a tighter short bound and rebound for handling, softer long bound and rebound for softening dips and larger unevenness. At least thats how it feels.

I am curious about the sways now that you mention the specs may have changed. I hadnt heard anything about that.

Zteve 08-08-2013 10:54 AM
it does feel pretty good, though i am comparing it to a 2004 350Z with the OEM suspension i drove for 10 years.

kenchan 08-08-2013 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by GTLAW (Post 2437555)
What I don't understand is why would they tune the shocks and springs for Euro drivers when the car is made in Japan. You will never see BMW or Audi go, tuned for Japan lol.

It's Japaneses sports car keep it that way, don't get why mix parts.
from wat i hear, there is a lot more rougher roads in european countries than in japan. therefore, if you tune a car made for european roads, then the car should feel great in most countries.

plus, japanese like 'euro-tuned' marketing scheme as it sounds nurb tested/certified. :D

im pretty happy with my 09's stock suspension though, just needed a slightly stiffer front swaybar. that's all that ive done. drives nice in my area, and the european DW's smooth things out for me.

6spd 08-08-2013 01:46 PM
The 13 does hit those stupid real short, real high speed bumps like a train though, no matter how slow. I thought the 09 was bad...

kenchan 08-08-2013 02:04 PM
so the dampers are valved stiffer and springs identical?

6spd 08-08-2013 02:07 PM
I guess so. Because you know if Nissan changed something else (like sways or springs), they'd be touting that around too.

kenchan 08-08-2013 02:39 PM
lol true dat :icon17:

synolimit 08-08-2013 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2437534)
As far as body roll, sounds like they changed sway bar specs.

Measurements of the stock bars would be telling, in that regard.
Give or take a 0.5mm from where on the bars you measure, I got 26.5mm front and 24mm rear.

If this is right then the front and rear might be 0.5mm bigger than older years.


Quote:
Originally Posted by markymark (Post 428366)
Hey guys,

My 370z's been with the whiteline guys over the last few days for them to test the final fitment of their sway bars. Here are some pics

http://www.the370z.com/members/marky...3-img-4533.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/marky...2-img-4530.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/marky...1-img-4507.jpg

Contrary to the bulletin on their website the front bar diameter is 27mm not 33mm.

Front sway bar – Whiteline 27mm adjustable solid, OE 25mm non adjustable tubular

Soft 16% stiffer than OE
Medium 36% stiffer than OE
Hard 61% stiffer than OE

Rear sway bar – Whiteline 24mm adjustable solid, OE 23mm non adjustable tubular

Soft -1% stiffer than OE
Medium 21% stiffer than OE
Hard 49% stiffer than OE


I won't be recieving the car until Monday-tuesday next week so unfortunately no reviews til then, but I'll write up my initial impressions as soon as I get to take her for a spin. :driving:

I must also commend Whiteline for their fantastic customer service - they are highly professional, and although there was a minor hiccup they're dealing with it honestly and efficiently. Plus they lent me a 2008 STi with the complete whiteline suspension package ;)
The Z's not a bad handling car by any measure...but this STi is eye-opening giggle inducingly fast in the corners. In my favourite windy roads I was going at least 7-10km/h faster thru the corners and had loads more confidence to boot. Needless to say I was quite impressed.

Anyway I'll keep you guys posted.

Sh0velMan 08-08-2013 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2438087)
Give or take a 0.5mm from where on the bars you measure, I got 26.5mm front and 24mm rear.

If this is right then the front and rear might be 0.5mm bigger than older years.
I'll try and remember to measure tonight.

6spd 08-08-2013 03:41 PM
Im going to change my oil saturday, so if know one measures by then, then Ill measure them front and back.

synolimit 08-08-2013 10:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 2438168)
Im going to change my oil saturday, so if know one measures by then, then Ill measure them front and back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2438087)
Give or take a 0.5mm from where on the bars you measure, I got 26.5mm front and 24mm rear.
:icon23:

Super Werty 08-14-2013 05:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 2438168)
Im going to change my oil saturday, so if know one measures by then, then Ill measure them front and back.
Well, did you measure?

chops 08-14-2013 11:58 PM
FYI:

OEM (sport/base)
Front: 26.5mm
Rear: 24.2mm

NISMO S-Tune
Front: 27.0mm
Rear: 25.4mm

Stock NISMO:
Front: 27.0mm
Rear: 25.5mm

synolimit 08-15-2013 12:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Werty (Post 2446331)
Well, did you measure?
Dear lord, 2nd time I've had to say something haha. I already did, his 13 isn't going to be any different.

Super Werty 08-15-2013 12:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2446751)
Dear lord, 2nd time I've had to say something haha. I already did, his 13 isn't going to be any different.
My mistake. When I saw your post I saw the aftermarket sways in the pics you quoted and assumed you were talking about those

6spd 08-15-2013 10:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chops (Post 2446748)
FYI:

OEM (sport/base)
Front: 26.5mm
Rear: 24.2mm
^this

Sorry, I measured and totally forgot to post it.

jburke26 08-17-2013 09:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 2437940)
The 13 does hit those stupid real short, real high speed bumps like a train though, no matter how slow. I thought the 09 was bad...
That is does! I hit a bump a few days ago and I though I heard my spine crack and my face almost hit the steering wheel.

critical 08-23-2013 09:02 PM
The new shocks' dampening characteristics have changed to simultaneously improve the ride comfort as well as the stability on rough roads and at high-speed/when driving sporty. They are suppose to react more quickly to driver input.

Limeybastard 07-25-2014 12:27 PM
Would it not be easy just to compare part numbers and see if they are different from the pre 2013 models?

m4a1mustang 07-25-2014 12:40 PM
I like the "Euro" shocks a lot more than the old ones. The car is much more composed in the high speed stuff.

synolimit 07-27-2014 10:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2908199)
I like the "Euro" shocks a lot more than the old ones. The car is much more composed in the high speed stuff.
are you comparing an old car to a new one? if thats the case its not exactly apples to apples.

felix0121 03-21-2015 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott@Synergy (Post 2909968)
are you comparing an old car to a new one? if thats the case its not exactly apples to apples.
2015 this year's 370Z came back to go with the previous stock suspension - it's now the NEWEST one.


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