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Sh0velMan 07-01-2013 06:17 PM

Fortune Auto Coilovers - Who's got them?
 
So, how many users do we have running 500's 510's or Dreadnoughts?

I'm planning on getting a set of 510's in the next month or so, so I'm interested in impressions and observations of anyone using these for the Track, Autocross or even just spirited street driving.

Thx! :tup:

Kingbaby 07-01-2013 06:31 PM

from the 350Z and 240sx community I heard only good things about the brand and customer service being stateside for rebuiltability of thier products...

I'm going with them or PBM on my next set because of a provided dyno sheet for your set which is a plus on quality control!

sfearl1 07-01-2013 06:45 PM

I took my car equipped with the 500 series and Swift upgrades to the Dragon this year for ZDayZ. I couldn't believe my car was capable of the way it performed that week. I don't autox/track it (yet), so I apologize for my lack of information specific to your application. I will say that a professional driving/autox instructor drove it and commented a number of times on how well-balanced the car was, and how he couldn't find any complaints/vices with my car or the way it was setup. I'm also running nismo s-tune sways and RE11's.

Sh0velMan 07-01-2013 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingbaby (Post 2388009)
from the 350Z and 240sx community I heard only good things about the brand and customer service being stateside for rebuiltability of thier products...

I'm going with them or PBM on my next set because of a provided dyno sheet for your set which is a plus on quality control!


This is exactly why I am going with them. Dyno sheet + stateside facilities for rebuilds/re-valving.


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Originally Posted by sfearl1 (Post 2388029)
I took my car equipped with the 500 series and Swift upgrades to the Dragon this year for ZDayZ. I couldn't believe my car was capable of the way it performed that week. I don't autox/track it (yet), so I apologize for my lack of information specific to your application. I will say that a professional driving/autox instructor drove it and commented a number of times on how well-balanced the car was, and how he couldn't find any complaints/vices with my car or the way it was setup. I'm also running nismo s-tune sways and RE11's.

Cool, thx!

The 500's aren't a true rear coilover, are they? I'm pretty sure the 510's are...

sfearl1 07-01-2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2388036)
This is exactly why I am going with them. Dyno sheet + stateside facilities for rebuilds/re-valving.




Cool, thx!

The 500's aren't a true rear coilover, are they? I'm pretty sure the 510's are...

Correct. Rear on the 500 is OEM-style. I believe I read they switched from a true type rear to the OEM for performance reasons. I'll try to find the source.

cv129 07-01-2013 09:16 PM

This is believed to be one of the best at this price range, seems like a great bang for buck. The only thing is regarding the individual dyno testing may be a little misleading (not a big deal however).

Link below, see post from "terry@f" 6/13/2011 11:39pm, response to the discussion.

Fortune Auto Coilovers [Archive] - Nissan Road Racing Forums

Again, looks like a great setup for the price, just wanna shine light into a particular point so other readers have the correct expectation for their future purchases.

Wonka2581 07-01-2013 10:01 PM

Subd

Kingbaby 07-02-2013 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 2388230)
This is believed to be one of the best at this price range, seems like a great bang for buck. The only thing is regarding the individual dyno testing may be a little misleading (not a big deal however).

Link below, see post from "terry@f" 6/13/2011 11:39pm, response to the discussion.

Fortune Auto Coilovers [Archive] - Nissan Road Racing Forums

Again, looks like a great setup for the price, just wanna shine light into a particular point so other readers have the correct expectation for their future purchases.

Good link cv129....read it a couple times

Then comes the heated debate on suspension dynamics, and purpose of a coilover system....many self proclaimed auto x expert drivers well bash all products not European or American made...

In Japan, and what these coils are made for not a soul is worried about a "knee" lol...while I was there kids (30plus) where starting with springs over 10k years ago...

What most agree with is that KW is the better choice for Motorsport's and the sub 2k coils are for the weekend warrior.

Sh0velMan 07-02-2013 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 2388230)
This is believed to be one of the best at this price range, seems like a great bang for buck. The only thing is regarding the individual dyno testing may be a little misleading (not a big deal however).

Link below, see post from "terry@f" 6/13/2011 11:39pm, response to the discussion.

Fortune Auto Coilovers [Archive] - Nissan Road Racing Forums

Again, looks like a great setup for the price, just wanna shine light into a particular point so other readers have the correct expectation for their future purchases.

Good reading there for a lot of reasons.

Good to know that you don't get a real dyno sheet for the units you actually receive. I kinda thought that was a little too good to be true.

Also a lot of the opinions in that thread are just that - opinions.

No sub 4-5K coilover system is going to be 100% perfect in every way from the factory, if you're going so far as to have them dyno tested and matched to your specific chassis for 100% accurate (mathematically) dampening... And most true motorsports coilover systems still have to be re-valved even after you purchase them.

All that said, I think the FA's are going to be a great value at sub-2K pricing.

cossie1600 11-28-2013 02:55 AM

I got my coilover from them, the dyno provided were my shocks according to them

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XwChriswX 11-28-2013 11:46 AM

I see you went with the 510s, I ordered a set of the Gen4 500s myself. With 11k front and 8k rear spring rates based on what they recommended with my planned usage. Their website was very informative and helpful with the recommendation. Looking forward to getting them installed. :tup:

cossie1600 11-28-2013 12:01 PM

I probably should have gone with that, I think my sprigs might be too stiff. I am not gonna install it for a week or two. Do a write up on how to do it!

synolimit 11-28-2013 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2587040)
I probably should have gone with that, I think my sprigs might be too stiff. I am not gonna install it for a week or two. Do a write up on how to do it!

Why to stiff? Whats your rates? I'm still trying to figure out the best.

cossie1600 11-28-2013 02:37 PM

14 or 16k

synolimit 11-28-2013 03:41 PM

Lol nice. It's going to be a little hard. What's the rears?

Rusty 11-28-2013 05:34 PM

Sub'd. :tup:

cossie1600 11-28-2013 09:08 PM

12k or something, have to check it to get the exact specs

Rangerz 12-19-2014 08:11 PM

Bringing this thread back to life I hope. Was interested to hear Shovelmans and Cossies comments on how the 510s have worked for them?

Im shopping around right now looking at the 510 's or Stance Pro Comp and any comments on how they have performed on track for those that have them.

synolimit 12-20-2014 07:13 PM

Last I heard he wasn't happy. He spent a lot for not a great turn out or something. I run Stance custom 2 ways in 18k/12k and I'm happy with function and adustablity for both street and track.

Rangerz 12-20-2014 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 3061745)
Last I heard he wasn't happy. He spent a lot for not a great turn out or something. I run Stance custom 2 ways in 18k/12k and I'm happy with function and adustablity for both street and track.

You run street tires with those rates? Going to run NASA TT3 in 2015 but, will most likely be on RS3' s for the year. I put my data in and Fortune emailed back that the 510 was suggested with 14 k 11k springs..

I have been looking at the stance as well really like thr pro comps you have and the SS + look ok too.

XwChriswX 12-21-2014 06:46 AM

Fortune Auto doesn't have the Z34 listed on their website anymore? That was for the 500 Series, not sure about the 510 Series though.

synolimit 12-21-2014 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rangerz (Post 3061756)
You run street tires with those rates? Going to run NASA TT3 in 2015 but, will most likely be on RS3' s for the year. I put my data in and Fortune emailed back that the 510 was suggested with 14 k 11k springs..

I have been looking at the stance as well really like thr pro comps you have and the SS + look ok too.

For now yes. They were setup for future plans. I have 285/285 rs3's now. Once the GT wing and roll cage go in I'll move to slicks. Talk with Adam that I said in that PM and go from there.

cossie1600 12-21-2014 01:40 PM

They are definitely working because one or two click on the shocks can have a notable change on the car. I think if I were to get it again, I would go even stiffer on the springs. I still feel like the front can use more springs, rear is fine. The quality on them is also something you have to be concerned about. My adjustment knob broke even before I put it on the car. I had to pay $20 to ship it back to have it fixed. I only have 2000 miles on it, but the paint seems to be holding up fine. The ride on the street is also very bearable. Keep note that you have to run the shocks at half stiff on the street, anything softer the car just feels floaty. As far is bang for the buck, they are terrible. For $2000, I am only gaining 1 to 2 sec at the track. To be fair, they do make the car easier to drive due to less sway. I think I was 1.2 sec faster at Laguna and 1.4 faster at sears point

synolimit 12-21-2014 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 3062029)
They are definitely working because one or two click on the shocks can have a notable change on the car. I think if I were to get it again, I would go even stiffer on the springs. I still feel like the front can use more springs, rear is fine. The quality on them is also something you have to be care about. My adjustment knob broke even before I put it on the car. I had to pay $20 to ship it back to have it fixed. I only have 2000 miles on it, but the paint seems to be holding up fine. The ride on the street is also very bearable. Keep note that you have to run the shocks at half stiff on the street, anything softer the car just feels floaty. As far is bang for the buck, they are terrible. For $2000, I am only gaining 1 to 2 sec at the track. To be fair, they do make the car easier to drive due to less sway. I think I was 1.2 sec faster at Laguna and 1.4 faster at sears point

My brand new 2 ways were messed up day one also. A valve in the upper shock for the rears was like glued shut. Had to ship back free of charge, they sent normal 1 ways for free so I could drive around on and took care of the issue. I think I was $2049 total also.

Whatever your sprung for Ive been told by everyone they valve for the middle and have 2-3k adjustment above and below. If I were you I'd go 2k up in the front as long as it's not to far out of sync front to rear (6k I think?) and try that out. These cars need a lot of front!! 18k is kinda small for me. Shamu and I forget his name (silver car with aeromotions wing) are like 24k and 20k.

cossie1600 12-21-2014 11:49 PM

I am not a car setup guy, but the big bar and stiff springs have definitely made the car worse at low speed corners (aka hairpins). Yet at the medium to high speed corners, the car is just so much nicer. Along with the coilovers, you still need to have a big sway bar. Now depending on how competitive you are and what your end goal is, I still recommend doing just the sway bar and tires first.

I do have some SPL suspension kit ready for install, but probably wont install it until February.


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