Sport Pkg brakes up to track use?
 

I'm considering a 370z with Sport Pkg as my weekend track car. I am an experienced track driver running in advanced run groups and will likely upgrade the suspension, and will definitely add an oil cooler and run dedicated track wheels/tires and pads.

My question is, are the Sport Pkg brakes up to the task? Are there any ducting kits available that properly route air to the inside of the wheel hub? In my experience ducting kits are the best way to keep the brakes cool...

Also, how easy is it to change pads? Do you have to remove the entire caliper or do you just pop a pin out and pry the pads out while the caliper is still bolted on?

Thanks in advance
John

calipers yes, pads/fluid hell no.

Pretty easy to change pads on this car. Pin.

Rotors are still a toss up. We think the problems people have been experiencing on the track is more from pad overheating than rotors, however the rotors might be terrible too.

I guess non-sports brakes should stay the hell away? :D

You could not be any more correct, sir. :icon18:

Brake Lines
 

I suggest changing out the stock brake lines with SS ones.

So what pads do you track junkies run - what fluid? sorry if this has been answered before - just link me :p

Flush and load brake system w/ DOT4 or maybe DOT5 / DOT 5.1 (DOT4 being the better choice, IMO)

Stainless brake lines would help too.

Dot 4 - I concur

Dot 5 doesn't like ABS

Just get some RBF600 fluid... as far as pads go, do you want dedicated track pads or something you can try and use in both?

RCZ, what do you think about the hawk blues? i like them b/c they're good enough for track use in other cars i've driven but you dont *have* to take them off to drive home. (i usually take them off the next day after getting home). the price is also relatively cheap.

after several issues with the brakes overheating, i just decided to go with a full AP Racing BBK... I think I'm the first one with this setup... I'm LATE posting a review, but will do so after my event this coming weekend... I ran them at Miller Motorsports a few weeks ago and had zero of the problems i had before...

you *may* get rid of the heating issue with stock brakes by swapping rotors for slotted and creating some ducting to get air flow up, but **** when it comes to brakes why take the chance... you need them to work every time!

Agreed ^ please post up pics :) and pm me a price if you could :)

hey shaba, if you're asking me for a price, no can do... just ping josh at stillen

there is a pic on my journal somewhere... will start a new thread next weekend

I dont have experience with Hawk Blues, only with HP+ and the street variants. Maybe you're referring to the HP+?

DOT 5 should NEVER be put in a street car. 5.1 is just a higher grade of DOT 4.

DOT 3, 4 and 5.1 are the same "technology"..Glycol based.

DOT 5 is silicone based.

I've used the combination of Hawk Blues/RBF 600 on a couple of Porsches and they worked well. If you like to keep your wheels and paint looking good you need to apply a good coat of wax before your weekend and wash the brake dust off before it gets wet and sits. That stuff turns to concrete!

Carbotechs have worked well for me on my 370Z. I have XP10s in the front and XP8s in the rear. Great grip and no fade in 20 minute sessions at Barber... Can't use them on the street though; they make horrible noises.

Thats the exact setup I am going to try next!

I have run on Hawk HP+ which worked fine at Buttonwillow but not good for extended braking zones like at Big Willow. Those pads would be ok on a stock 370Z with stock or street tires. As you get faster, speeds get higher, tires get stickier, etc. they won't be very good which is why I am making the switch to Carbotech. I also like that Carboetch has a bunch of compound options so I have room to get more or less agressive if I need to.

As far as the rest of the braking system, I have had no troubles. Rotors have been fine. I did put RBF600 in before I ever took the car on track though. Stock fluid always sucks. Also installing some Challenge stainless lines soon.

hmm.... i checked the carbotech websited a few weeks ago but didnt see anything available for the 370z. i guess they must have recently added the 370z.

where can i get them at a reasonable price? i remember them being a little more expensive than the hawk blues for my miata....

Carbotech hasn't updated their site yet, but they are the same pads as the Infiniti G37 Sport so you can find them that way. They offer all of their compounds for it. You can buy them through DoubleDownMotorsports.com if you like :).

do 370z forum members get a discounted price? lol...

i'm ready to order a set if you give me a good price. your website lists the fronts for $144.

thanks.