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If you are going for "stance" then the knockoffs work fine because you aren't going for performance. The problem with them is their dampening is actually worse than the OEM ones in terms of consistency from coil to coil even in the same set. A good friend Angelo from ANZE suspensions gave a great talk at one of our track events to our racers and DE folks about how on these low end and even some of the entry level stuff 2 front dampers will be completely different on the shock dyno from each other. This leads to instability etc. etc. As for driver skill, we always feel that the first mod on any car should be fixing the nut behind the wheel through education and practice at the track even if it is a stock car doing DE sessions. This "mod" is easily moved from one vehicle to the next as well. As for driver skills overcoming poor coils, yes it's possible but given how inconsistent some of these coils are, why put yourself at a disadvantage if performance driving is your goal? :) -mike |
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What are your thoughts or 2 cents about Tein Mono flex. Seems like no one talking about these on here. Want to hear.
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FLEX is for cars that want to "Flex" like negative camber type stuff.
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As for the dyno sheets, I'd have to test them and verify them to speak to them, but that is definitely a move in the right direction for the fortune auto ones. But at their prices, if they are doing a proper shock dyno/matched setup the price will begin to creep up as their labor costs also increase. -Mike Paisan http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/153798190.jpg Maintaining, Modifying and Educating TriState Enthusiasts since 2001. Like us on Facebook! | E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.AZP1 (2971) |AIM: AZP Installs "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" |
The Whitelines for the Z suck. I've got a busted set in my garage right now.
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Check it out then, I'll buy from a vender that's a third party tester to confirm. And their 510 is like $1700, I wouldn't think that's that cheap. |
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$1700 is still very inexpensive for coilovers. It also depends on what your goals are with your car. If it's for looks/stance/ride height, then any coilovers will do. If you want repeatability on the race track that doesn't depend on the springs stiffness and has actually wheel travel you will start looking at the more expensive coils. We had a client/fellow racer who had very expensive Motons on his Caymen S racecar. The car would constantly would go into limp mode after hitting curbing on the track. They brought in all kinds of experts to try to get the ECU to stop going into limp mode. Eventually we suggested they raise the car up. As soon as they did that, the car stopped going into limp mode because the suspension travel had been restored and the wheels were actually staying on the ground. -Mike Paisan http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/153798190.jpg Maintaining, Modifying and Educating TriState Enthusiasts since 2001. Like us on Facebook! | E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.AZP1 (2971) |AIM: AZP Installs "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" |
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I'd rather pay for a set of SPLs than buy another set of Whitelines. They aren't a good part on this platform. They make good parts in general. These are just a rare misstep. |
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They need to look at their balljoint supplier. I can't see them making their own. The threaded portion of the end link needs to be a harder metal as well. |
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I'm a total believer though! I will total be taught by you if you show me stuff. Not just dyno's but insides, metallurgy of components, oils used, gasket types etc etc. I thought my OEM calipers were great. Then I saw a stop tech or someone's inside and they are not the same. The OEM will basically melt seals and stuff if it goes beyond a 20min track session. I see why stop tech can do 24hr endurance races. I'm not saying I don't believe you but I must see proof first. Manufacture dyno's are the last thing I'll ever believe! But if you have independent ones its one step closer. I need rears at the moment only. I need a way to adjust preload because in a 3 wheel situation my swift racing 10k springs can pop out of the spl mid link bucket. I have two options, buy a shock that's adjustable height wise so I get preload or sell the spl and swift spring and buy a true type from someone. Biggest issue though is FA told me they valve for +-2k of what you should use. In the end I'll probably have a much stronger spring so buying one now valved for 10k just means I need to pay more for a revalve later if I use greater than 12k down the road. What say you? |
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Autocross to Win (DGs Autocross Secrets) - ATW Home Page Also, Broadway Static now customizes Fortune Auto coil-overs. Digressive damping curve matched to your requested spring rates. http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets.html Finally, MyG37.com board hosts the RWD Sedan Coil-over list in the suspension forum. All the companies listed have a Z34 option. I'm stunned at how long the list is! |
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