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sofa_king 09-24-2009 07:14 PM

Pm front rear sways to 91775 please!

JoeD 09-24-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 211399)
im all for quality, but its a bar...... a nice paint job and you have no idea whats under it.

The Hotchiks sways were always a great buy for the IS300 community. im sure they are the same for the 370. not to mention you can adjust them.

to each his own I guess.

Sure, but at the end of the day...they are Hotchkis.

You can rest assured that under the pretty paint-job of a Cusco unit is quality that justifies the price.

B1nks 09-24-2009 09:17 PM

yeah, I can't rest assured and neither can you really, but I can take a ride in someone's or someone who isn't on Cusco's junk can purchase these and give a non-biased review. That I can appreciate.

B1nks 09-24-2009 09:25 PM

by the way the things that I read most of the people liked them but said the Cusco suspension units were no different than Jic and not as good as HKS so I'm not that impressed. KW suspension is awesome and there are a lot of other units that I would consider better. I hope these are a step up from the 350z because competition has raised the bar. Also, don't think I'm hating on Cusco because I'm not. It's just that they have not even been on my radar the last couple years. I think they make some great LSD's and some other things but not suspension.

snapping 09-27-2009 06:04 PM

PM price to 33323 thanks.

shabarivas 09-27-2009 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by B1nks (Post 211864)
by the way the things that I read most of the people liked them but said the Cusco suspension units were no different than Jic and not as good as HKS so I'm not that impressed. KW suspension is awesome and there are a lot of other units that I would consider better. I hope these are a step up from the 350z because competition has raised the bar. Also, don't think I'm hating on Cusco because I'm not. It's just that they have not even been on my radar the last couple years. I think they make some great LSD's and some other things but not suspension.

Go do some research over @ g35driver... see how many ppl got cusco sways on their car....

RCZ 09-27-2009 09:03 PM

I like cusco stuff, but its by no means the be-all-end-all. I'd say they are good quality products and would have them on my car (and I have before), but some of you guys seem overly partial to them.

kannibul 09-28-2009 09:12 AM

Does anyone offer front-adjustable sways?

I've I'm going to change my swaybars, I would like them adjustable front AND rear. (I know there are adjustable rear's available)

I'd like to be able to dial in what I'm after; even if it is the recommended setting.

RCZ 09-28-2009 10:28 AM

Dial it in with the alignment...then adjust with the bars. Don't do it backwards.

shabarivas 09-28-2009 10:56 AM

cusco has front adjustable

kannibul 09-28-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 215947)
Dial it in with the alignment...then adjust with the bars. Don't do it backwards.

Just for curiousity sake, why?

If I'm after minimizing body roll, then wouldn't it make sense to adjust the sways first?

I understand if you're going after under/over-steer, then you gotta make sure your traction is in place (alignment), otherwise, you're just making more work for yourself...

Just looking for a bit of clarification :)

RCZ 09-28-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 215986)
Just for curiousity sake, why?

If I'm after minimizing body roll, then wouldn't it make sense to adjust the sways first?

I understand if you're going after under/over-steer, then you gotta make sure your traction is in place (alignment), otherwise, you're just making more work for yourself...

Just looking for a bit of clarification :)


You dont "adjust the sways" to reduce the body roll. You can reduce a bit of roll with the sways yes, but you adjust them in order to change the os/us bias. If all you want is to reduce body roll, then get springs, they will do more for your body roll than sways will.

If you have the time, necessity and cash to do it, sways are supposed to be used in conjunction with the alignment. Best case scenario you test different settings of the two and how they work together. Get the bars on there on medium settings, adjust alignment until you get the desired effect and then adjust the sways in case you need to change the bias. For example you normal setup for the dry may be too tail happy for the wet so you would do a quick swaybar adjustment to reduce oversteer.

I don't presume to know what you need or don't need, but you did ask. So does that answer your question? Seems like you are getting a little ahead of yourself by wanting adjustable swaybars. I don't even think I need adjustable front bars and I go to the track often.

The reality is that I don't have a race car and I don't need to make adjustments like those. I would like to get sways because they will work great with the rest of the stuff I have and because I have a setup right now that I like, but foresee to be a little tricky in the rain. After I get sways, chances are I will have to get an alignment to get the desired effect. Which I can do because I have aftermarket alignment adjustability.

Your car, your opinion. I am not necessarily right or wrong, but I think you have bigger fish to fry. Not to say though that they won't be a nice upgrade, they do reduce some lean and help with crisper turn-in.

I am trying to help believe it or not.

kannibul 09-28-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 216178)
You dont "adjust the sways" to reduce the body roll. You can reduce a bit of roll with the sways yes, but you adjust them in order to change the os/us bias. If all you want is to reduce body roll, then get springs, they will do more for your body roll than sways will.

If you have the time, necessity and cash to do it, sways are supposed to be used in conjunction with the alignment. Best case scenario you test different settings of the two and how they work together. Get the bars on there on medium settings, adjust alignment until you get the desired effect and then adjust the sways in case you need to change the bias. For example you normal setup for the dry may be too tail happy for the wet so you would do a quick swaybar adjustment to reduce oversteer.

I don't presume to know what you need or don't need, but you did ask. So does that answer your question? Seems like you are getting a little ahead of yourself by wanting adjustable swaybars. I don't even think I need adjustable front bars and I go to the track often.

The reality is that I don't have a race car and I don't need to make adjustments like those. I would like to get sways because they will work great with the rest of the stuff I have and because I have a setup right now that I like, but foresee to be a little tricky in the rain. After I get sways, chances are I will have to get an alignment to get the desired effect. Which I can do because I have aftermarket alignment adjustability.

Your car, your opinion. I am not necessarily right or wrong, but I think you have bigger fish to fry. Not to say though that they won't be a nice upgrade, they do reduce some lean and help with crisper turn-in.

I am trying to help believe it or not.

You're being very helpful. Fact is I don't know what I "need", just more along the lines of "adjustable sounds better than non-adjustable" :)

In all honesty, I'm ignorant of suspension and have only a semi-educated guess as to what changes things in which way. I may come off as arguementive at times, but it's more or less so I can explain what I think is going on, and be corrected as needed. Kind of like saying "Hey, I think it does XYZ" - and then you say "No, It's XYA - you're correct here and here, but incorrect there".

So, please don't feel like you're telling me what to or what not to do. I'm learning, and what better way to learn than to get it from someone who's been there/done that.

RCZ 09-28-2009 03:53 PM

Its all good, there's different ways to look at it, but I'm just trying to recommend the stuff that will make the most difference quicker and make sense to do first. You can get them first... in fact if you don't plan on getting a more aggressive alignment, they may help you get the car to do what you want it to do. Honestly, as long as you get your bars from a reputable manufacturer who has done some research on their effect, you will have something you are happy with. Adjustable or not. Its only when you get picky about os/us balance and you actually understand what the practical difference is on the track (weight shifting, balance, interaction with rest of suspension, etc). You might be going overboard with the fully adjustable bars, but maybe not. Get what you like, just make an informed decision about what and why. Getting stuff just cause everyone else got it or because its "mad jdm tite" doesn't make much sense.

Don't let me put you off though, if they are what you want then get them.

370Ztune 09-29-2009 06:48 PM

PM's Replied.

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