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josh88 04-24-2012 12:59 PM

Coilover ride height changed after new rear subframe??
 
Hello all, I just recently had some warranty work done to my Z lowered on BC BR coilovers at the dealership to replace the problematic rear subframe mounted differential bushing which has been broken and leaking after only 19000 miles. In order to replace this bushing the entire rear sbframe it is mounted in needs to be replaced. I recieved my car back from the dealer yesterday and noticed the rear ride height is now at least an inch higher than before?? I have no idea why this has occurred as the coilover settings were not changed, and the new rear subframe is a direct replacement. I have jacked the car up and verified that everything looks to be installed correctly. Any ideas?

MattP725 04-24-2012 03:43 PM

Just a stab but maybe the bushings are stiff and haven't settled so the car isn't as low as before... maybe they redesigned the subframe? Hard to say because I doubt a lot of people on the forum have installed new subframes in their Zs.

vividracing 04-24-2012 04:03 PM

That's really strange. Are you sure they didn't change the coilovers? If you're 100% sure that the coilover settings aren't changed, then I'd agree with MattP that it must be because of the bushings. A whole inch is an awful lot of discrepancy, though.

I haven't looked at the 370Z rear subframe, but on most cars there's 4 studs that are part of the body of the car that the subframe slides onto. Large nuts hold the subframe to the car. I've had a few instances where the subframe isn't lined up completely correct and ends up not being seated totally flush, which means you have to pull the subframe back out and try again. The subframe seems tight because it's kinda wedged in there. Happened to me twice on my own 240SX. Double check that you're not having that issue. If all else fails, take it back to the shop and ask them why it's not right.

memorylasts 04-24-2012 04:09 PM

Maybe they had to raise the front to get the car onto a 4 point lift not sure how low you were...

Neo187H 04-24-2012 04:43 PM

Chances are they replaced the subframe and tightened the bolts for all of the control ams with the car sitting up on the lift, leaving the suspension at full hang. So now that the car is down with weight on it the bushings are bound up and holding the car higher than it should be.

Try loosening all of the arms on the subframe side with the weight of the car on the wheels and than tighten, I bet it solves your issue.

vividracing 04-24-2012 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by memorylasts (Post 1683176)
Maybe they had to raise the front to get the car onto a 4 point lift not sure how low you were...

They would have just jacked the car up or driven onto ramps or boards. Besides, his ride height is raised in the rear not the front.

memorylasts 04-24-2012 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 1683305)
They would have just jacked the car up or driven onto ramps or boards. Besides, his ride height is raised in the rear not the front.

yeah i guess i was speaking a little out of my *** without full thought. :ughdance: lol

vividracing 04-24-2012 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memorylasts (Post 1683419)
yeah i guess i was speaking a little out of my *** without full thought. :ughdance: lol

It happens. ;)

MattP725 04-24-2012 08:56 PM

Any chance they didn't seat the springs back on the perch correctly? if the rubber mount isn't flush it could force it up a bit. I'm assuming to install the subframe they need to remove the perch mounts.

fuct 04-25-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Neo187H (Post 1683258)
Chances are they replaced the subframe and tightened the bolts for all of the control ams with the car sitting up on the lift, leaving the suspension at full hang. So now that the car is down with weight on it the bushings are bound up and holding the car higher than it should be.

Try loosening all of the arms on the subframe side with the weight of the car on the wheels and than tighten, I bet it solves your issue.

i think this might be your answer.

corbin09 04-25-2012 10:55 AM

This happened to me. Do what Neo said and you will be good to go.

josh88 04-25-2012 01:49 PM

ok thanks for all the input... I will be back at the dealership on friday and hope to sort it all out. I will let you all know how it turns out

vividracing 04-25-2012 01:56 PM

I didn't even see Neos input. That's very possible. It could also be the springs not seated properly, as MattP pointed out.

Let us know how the trip to the dealer goes!

MJB 04-28-2012 06:50 AM

Same thing happened to me with my 350z. I was lowered on coilovers, replaced the subframe and the rear sat so much lower than before. I didn't touch the coilovers what so ever. Could never figure it out. Ended up having to do some height adjustment to the spring perch.

Neo187H 04-28-2012 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 1690699)
Same thing happened to me with my 350z. I was lowered on coilovers, replaced the subframe and the rear sat so much lower than before. I didn't touch the coilovers what so ever. Could never figure it out. Ended up having to do some height adjustment to the spring perch.

Didn't even think of it but if what I said is correct and they do what I mentioned than afterwards your car will sit too low like this member's did.

Since you installed the coilovers with the bushings all set at normal ride height so they were a bit bound up already.


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