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Ron 04-13-2012 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Glokwork (Post 1656606)
I'm sure you would still need camber arms with a drop of 1"-1.5". That's the drop I have on swifts and after maxing the factory camber out I'm still -2.5 all the way around.

there u go.. thank you

zguynate 04-13-2012 10:31 AM

Man honestly save your money and buy Swift springs. They handle great with stock shocks. It lowers the car just about perfect for street driving. Its not slammed by any means but you dont have to worry about speed bumps lol.

If you want even better handling throw on a set of sway bars. You would still come out cheaper than a good set of adjustable coilovers and will more than likely handle better than the cheaper sets.

TerribleONE 04-13-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 1660333)
Man honestly save your money and buy Swift springs. They handle great with stock shocks. It lowers the car just about perfect for street driving. Its not slammed by any means but you dont have to worry about speed bumps lol.

If you want even better handling throw on a set of sway bars. You would still come out cheaper than a good set of adjustable coilovers and probably handle better as well.

:shakes head:

zguynate 04-13-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1660345)
:shakes head:

I edited my statement. I didnt mean that it would handle better than a good set. A cheaper set is what I meant. My bad :tiphat:

wstar 04-13-2012 11:43 AM

I've already got swaybars on my car, one of my earliest mods. The swaybar upgrade is really awesome when it comes to keeping the car flatter in a turn, it's a huge win. Shock/Spring upgrades are for a different purpose though. The primary problem I see with my current (factory) suspension right now is it's too soft/bouncy during and just after braking, leading to a bit of a "porpoising" effect. I imagine just about any entry level quality adjustable coilover setup will let me tune that out to some degree. I don't really even want to drop the car at this time, at least not aggressively. Maybe half an inch.

The big question marks to me are:
1) External Reservoir? Seems like the primary purpose is fluid cooling for extended running? I can't seem to find a good analysis on when you need this, but I'm inclined to think 30-minute track sessions are fine without it.
2) Spring rates?

From what I've read (and I think I'm still failing to comprehend some things), it seems it's all about Spring Rates in the end. It seems like for a given car config (total weight, distribution, geometry) there's probably a certain spring rate ratio that's ideal, and some room for variance based on how stiff you want the ride to be. And then the shock adjustments for bound/rebound really just have just one ideal setting that's matched to the springs and your car's weight (although maybe it's nice to turn them softer for a street cruise). Picking the spring rates is something I haven't seen much data on though. Is there some standard rules of thumb based on corner weights, etc?

zguynate 04-13-2012 12:04 PM

Entry level coilovers will get you stiffer. No doubt. The main problem with cheaper entry level coilovers is the quality of the dampers. That is the main reason you will spend more money on the bigger names such as KW. The dampers are far superior to the cheaper sets.

From what I have read the swift/koni combo is good at eliminating the soft bouncy effect of the stock dampers.

Now as far as how the spring rates are chosen you got me there. That is beyond my understanding lol. If I had to guess I would say that it really depends on the drivers driving style and type of motor sport. I dont think there is one perfect setup. I could be wrong though as it is only a guess.

pokeyl 04-13-2012 02:24 PM

Still lookin? You could have my spare coilovers for $550 shipped.

http://www.the370z.com/members/pokey...-coilovers.jpg

chrislee 04-13-2012 04:07 PM

thanks for the update. haha this thread is getting longer and longer.

No thank you I saw those coils and they are ebay coils.

Rather spend few hundred more and get new/name brand coils.

so as of right now, these are my options right?

coils + camber arms. (how much would this setup cost with install/allignment, etc)

swift springs + shocks(i heard koni yellows are good, but they are expensive! $$$$) + camber arms, correct?

Mind you, I dont want to shell out a fortune on the suspension, because it is a lease and I want to be under 1500 total. Think this is possible?

thank you! :)

tonybui 04-13-2012 05:25 PM

BC BR $1079 shipped w/rear camber arm then install by yourself, win !!

chrislee 04-13-2012 05:39 PM

please let me know where is it for 1079 shipped with rear camber arm?! haha

thank you

Romulus1 04-13-2012 11:06 PM

He's prob getting pricing from forum vendors. Just search around the suspension section for ones selling BC BR's and send a few of them some messages asking for best
price shipped on the set with some spc cambers arms for the rear, spc's are more than fine. Be sure tominclude your zip code. Pricing on here's pretty good and you can always keep and eye out for a used set. I bought my BR's used from another member who sold their Z for 500$ and it's probably one off the best investments I made

Good luck man!

Romulus1 04-13-2012 11:09 PM

Actually I wanted to procrastinate on my iPad more so here's a few vendors:

http://www.the370z.com/suspension-br...check-out.html

http://www.the370z.com/suspension-br...torsports.html

http://www.the370z.com/suspension-br...-drop-kit.html

http://www.the370z.com/suspension-br...todesigns.html

Enjoy!


I would also message fred beans on here, see what he can do. 99 time out of 100 he's the lowest price if he can get the parts

Xplicit97 04-14-2012 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Romulus1 (Post 1662116)
I would also message fred beans on here, see what he can do. 99 time out of 100 he's the lowest price if he can get the parts

+1 on this FBPJOMER will get you a killer deal.. Thats who I go through

Ron 04-14-2012 12:18 PM

+2 on Jomer, he's hooked me up several times.


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