the toe being off will absolutely eat your tires up more... it creates more friction with the road, which means more heat... = wear

I went to another shop and got it aligned but...... i noticed something that bothered me abit.

On his screen both front wheels had matching numbers and both rears also had matching setups.

But I noticed just by looking at the rear wheels that the right side had more negative camber than the left which it was not suppose to according the his screen but the gap was visually visible.

Then one week after the alignment my steering wheel wasn't aligned with my wheels when driving in a straight ligne so I might have to get it aligned again for a third time at another shop lol.

He told me he had gotten his machine recalibrated in January.

I need to start clarifying myself a little more so you will quit busting me out lol. You do need toe bolts if you want your alignment to be back to factory specs. I purchased them however did not use them therefore I had to run a little more negative camber in the rear to get the toe in spec. The additional camber will not hurt that much in comparison to what the toe would if it was not in spec.

Just had my alignment done on H&R springs. They told me I needed a camber kit for the front. What do you guys think? The specs are below
Camber Front left -1.8 front right -2.2
Rear left -2.1 right -2.6


Done

I would just pull the right rear camber in to match the left and you will be good to go.

You think the shop will do it ?

If the right can be adjusted why wouldn't they adjust it ,if they don't then you will need a camber kit in the rear also.

Thx

Awesomely helpful thread!

Slight variances in subframe and body panel alignment can cause camber or toe to look off when it's not. I'd trust the computer over my eyes.

That may be true but I went for a third aligment and the shops computer displayed that the entire cars alignment was out of wack just two days after I had it done at the other place where they told me they had just done their recalibration.

For an example for the rear camber it displayed -1.1 at the left side and -2.6 to the right side. The toe up front was enormously unbalanced, the caster was so bad my steering wheel had a 20degree tilt when driving in a straight line.

I agree with you that computers are to be trusted vs the naked eye but only if the computer is running properly.