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cv129 02-06-2013 03:09 PM

What's the difference in distance in 150-0 or 100-0 or 60-0 between akebono vs base?

For repeated hard stops (track application), of course the larger disc and bigger caliper will be better to cope with heat. After all, braking performance is really a measure of efficiency in converting kinetic energy into heat energy (and then the dissipation of the heat). For street, I'll concur with Corbin

However, I do understand that we all want that little extra, I mean....one never needs 330+ hp to get from point a to point b, but we all want more

Daishi9000 02-06-2013 10:55 PM

i also upgraded my brakes. for the look and the added performance.
i wish i had gotten an LSD and an oil cooler first tho.

chrischhorn 02-07-2013 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Daishi9000 (Post 2151647)
i also upgraded my brakes. for the look and the added performance.
i wish i had gotten an LSD and an oil cooler first tho.

LSD is coming first for me before brakes. Brakes was gonna be a big thing for me till I got onto Hawaii and realized all I have is AutoX out here. New pads and I should be just fine for AutoX. LSD will make a major improvement no matter what situation placed in.

DEpointfive0 02-07-2013 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 2150920)
What's the difference in distance in 150-0 or 100-0 or 60-0 between akebono vs base?

For repeated hard stops (track application), of course the larger disc and bigger caliper will be better to cope with heat. After all, braking performance is really a measure of efficiency in converting kinetic energy into heat energy (and then the dissipation of the heat). For street, I'll concur with Corbin

However, I do understand that we all want that little extra, I mean....one never needs 330+ hp to get from point a to point b, but we all want more


For street driving, ALL that matters is how quickly you can lock up your brakes... I BET you can lock them up just as quickly as the brakes on a 370Z with sport package brakes (all things being equal)
The difference DOES come with how many times you can do that...

I'd hazard a guess that a base Z with slotted or drilled rotors can out stop a sport Z with the standard rotors (pads glaze over when breaking really hard and the slots or holes keep the glazing from happening)
And adding a high temp fluid should be good enough as well.

Staggered357 02-07-2013 12:56 AM

I just pulled the trigger on my set...they are going on the 2010 Maxima..on my 08 i had the 4 piston wilwoods up front and 2 piston in the rear still on a 12 inch rotor and coming from a single piston, on a hard stop..there is a difference..to call it significant..ehhh. but definitely a difference... i look at it like this...though i purchased them for looks ...even from a 35 mph cruise.. a difference in between 1 foot or 2 feet is very significant when a child runs out in the street...

DEpointfive0 02-07-2013 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Staggered357 (Post 2151866)
I just pulled the trigger on my set...they are going on the 2010 Maxima..on my 08 i had the 4 piston wilwoods up front and 2 piston in the rear still on a 12 inch rotor and coming from a single piston, on a hard stop..there is a difference..to call it significant..ehhh. but definitely a difference... i look at it like this...though i purchased them for looks ...even from a 35 mph cruise.. a difference in between 1 foot or 2 feet is very significant when a child runs out in the street...

I didn't know they fit!!!
YAY!!! New upgrade for the '13 Maxima I just got!!!


Btw, this isn't a fair comparison because the Maxima weighs more and has 75% of it's weight in the front, especially with it's CVT... The brakes FUCKIN SUCK!!!

Staggered357 02-07-2013 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2151879)
I didn't know they fit!!!
YAY!!! New upgrade for the '13 Maxima I just got!!!


Btw, this isn't a fair comparison because the Maxima weighs more and has 75% of it's weight in the front, especially with it's CVT... The brakes FUCKIN SUCK!!!

True... Congrats man... Post up a pic in the 4DSC thread...

DEpointfive0 02-07-2013 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Staggered357 (Post 2151897)
True... Congrats man... Post up a pic in the 4DSC thread...

There's a dedicated thread?!?!?! LOL
I LOVE the Maxima, always hated the brakes, so once you do your BBK upgrade hit me up!!!

Track_Your_Z 02-07-2013 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 2150920)
What's the difference in distance in 150-0 or 100-0 or 60-0 between akebono vs base?

For repeated hard stops (track application), of course the larger disc and bigger caliper will be better to cope with heat. After all, braking performance is really a measure of efficiency in converting kinetic energy into heat energy (and then the dissipation of the heat). For street, I'll concur with Corbin

However, I do understand that we all want that little extra, I mean....one never needs 330+ hp to get from point a to point b, but we all want more

If you can lock the tires up with the stock calipers and pads then there will be zero difference for stopping distances as the tires are the limiting factor. The best you can ever hope when putting on a BBK is zero difference on stopping distance... Most cheaper BBKs dont have optimized piston sizes and will have too much bias to either the front or the rear which will hurt performance and increase stopping distances. Unless you track your car a BBK is strictly for looks and slightly better feel (but is that difference in feel worth the price tag?). You can buy better pads for the stock calipers that can meet whatever needs you have.

/Angelo350Z/ 02-22-2013 10:45 PM

For anyone doing the swap, I highly suggest upgrading the pads prior to the install. Any set of pads with great initial bite make a huge difference and is sure to inspire a lot of confidence. The stock Sport brakes on my 370Z does not stop nearly as good as the 40th AE brakes on my 350Z--mainly because of the Hawk HPS pads. The brake dust on the wheels are also noticeably less with the Hawk pads.

Staggered357 03-19-2013 07:27 PM

Had them on the Maxima for a few weeks now... The used rotors were warped so did new front rotors and posi-centric pads... Absolutely love them... Initial brake dust was noticeable but now they are broken in a bit... She stops swiftly and smoothly...
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Jordo! 03-19-2013 07:58 PM

Given the costs involved, I'd try getting better pads and maybe SS lines first. That alone will make a night and day difference.

That said, although I can't compare with base due to lack of direct experience, I wasn't crazy about the sport package brakes until I did those upgrades.

Ni55anPat 03-20-2013 09:12 PM

Waiting to install mine with stoptech rotors.

I will let you know in two weeks

Stolly08 04-06-2013 01:19 AM

When my car is running again I shall post in this thread good knowledge! Can't wait I finally have them lol

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