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SPOHN 10-23-2011 11:37 AM

Bedding in Carbotech pads with Used Rotors
 
I just picked up some Carbotech pads and I want to install them tomorrow. But Carbotech instructions say if you used a different pad on your current rotors that you should replace or resurface your current rotor. Well I have slotted rotors so they can't be resurfaced. What should I do? I have some Stillen J-Hooked rotors but don't want to use them yet. My current rotors only have 3K miles on them with plenty of life. Does it really make a big difference if the rotors are not resurfaced?

KaienZ34 10-23-2011 12:29 PM

I'm not sure, i just know i HATE bedding in brakes.

gpa7pk 10-23-2011 01:25 PM

I was running HPS pads on my slotted rotors and then switched to the XP 10/8's. I opted for the Carbotech pre-bedding service and then went through the regular bedding in process for "insurance". I now have awesome brakes and feel very comfortable at Texas World Speedway Track.

cossie1600 10-23-2011 01:34 PM

Don't worry too much about it, just make sure you bed them in like they say. Else you will be wondering where your brake pedal is on your first session at the track

Nikon FM 10-23-2011 01:35 PM

Aren't there instructions regarding used/non turned rotors too? I had 12/10s and I recall some wording about non-turned rotors….albeit turning before bedding in showed as the priority in the instructions.

SPOHN 10-23-2011 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gpa7pk (Post 1372818)
I was running HPS pads on my slotted rotors and then switched to the XP 10/8's. I opted for the Carbotech pre-bedding service and then went through the regular bedding in process for "insurance". I now have awesome brakes and feel very comfortable at Texas World Speedway Track.

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1372830)
Don't worry too much about it, just make sure you bed them in like they say. Else you will be wondering where your brake pedal is on your first session at the track

Sounds good
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Originally Posted by Nikon FM (Post 1372832)
Aren't there instructions regarding used/non turned rotors too? I had 12/10s and I recall some wording about non-turned rotors….albeit turning before bedding in showed as the priority in the instructions.

Maybe on there site but not on the set of directions I have

Red__Zed 10-23-2011 02:05 PM

carbotech will stick to their story that you shouldn't use rotors that have been run previously with their pads. I know people that have done it with no issue, just cleaned up the rotors and went to it....don't know that I'd risk it.

Baer383 10-23-2011 03:13 PM

You can scuff up the surface with a 90deg die grinder with a 50 grit roloc disc then break clean it when finished and bed them as if the rotors are new.:tiphat:

takjak2 10-23-2011 03:34 PM

I was just asking about this before I made it to this thread. Hoping to swap between Carbotech and OEM pads without messing with rotors constantly.

cossie1600 10-23-2011 06:04 PM

It would be great to have new rotors for every new pads, but then it's also nice to have a fresh set of slicks for every track session. You will be fine, don't worry about it. I swapped my pads way too many times this year (so have others), you will be fine at the non professional level.

Oh yeah, I bought a 50 or 100 pack sandpaper. It's the special 80 grit one that one of the forum member recommded. Let me know if you want a few, I have a whole stack of them and they are taking up space. I have to check exactly what they are.

sig11 10-24-2011 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1372830)
Don't worry too much about it, just make sure you bed them in like they say. Else you will be wondering where your brake pedal is on your first session at the track

Anything other than Bobcats say to bed on the track. :P

cossie1600 10-24-2011 12:10 PM

Oh yeah, I had my car shipped to a private air strip. I then did a few 130-40 to bed in my XP10. I chickened out on the XP8 and didn't quite get up to speed for a full bleed, I ended up not having my brakes in my first session at the track. Plus I got some deposits on the rotors as a result.

A former race car driver told me that bedding in pads is super important. If you screw it up, the pads are basically junked. You just need to get the pad to bond perfectly at the first heat cycle. The whole rotor/pad mating thing is secondary

370Ztune 10-24-2011 12:38 PM

Easiest way to do it is run the pads on the street hard enough to scrape material, but not hard enough to get them hot enough for bedding to begin.

Basically do a hard stop, then drive normally for awhile until everything completely cools down and do another somewhat hard stop. This should scrape the old material off as Carbotechs are generally abrasive under "cold" usage.

Then you can go about bedding them in normally with multiple hard stops within short periods of time.

SPOHN 10-24-2011 04:58 PM

^ this is what I did today. They seem perfect IMO. Did several 120 to 30 stops. These pads ate so bad a$$. I see why Cossie hated on the HP. Far surperior. I did like my HP+ though. But I have a new love now.

corner3garage 10-24-2011 05:10 PM

We always recommend resurfacing or replacing the rotor, but we know many customers that have not and they sometimes end up with some rotor warpage.


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