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joshs09slvrZ 09-28-2011 11:10 AM

Both Sway Bars Needed?
 
Looking to get sway bars for my car. Stillen only sells the kit, but Hotchkis sells them separately. Are both needed?

SPOHN 09-28-2011 11:16 AM

I'd say get both. Really doesn't make since to stiffen just the front or rear. If so you are bound to have more under/oversteer. They really work in harmony together.

birdmanx1 09-28-2011 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1333566)
I'd say get both. Really doesn't make since to stiffen just the front or rear. If so you are bound to have more under/oversteer. They really work in harmony together.

+1

joshs09slvrZ 09-28-2011 11:24 AM

Excellent! Seen a lot of good reviews of Stillen's kit...especially since I won't be tracking the car.

kenchan 09-28-2011 11:40 AM

Yah definitely get the front and rear.

christian370z 09-28-2011 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by joshs09slvrZ (Post 1333583)
Excellent! Seen a lot of good reviews of Stillen's kit...especially since I won't be tracking the car.

The Stillen sway bars are what I got, for that very reason. They are awesome and really help the car's balance and control body roll. You should definitely get both though.

m4a1mustang 09-28-2011 12:40 PM

Get both.

But you can run whatever combination you want (stock bar with an aftermarket bar) depending on your preference.

joshs09slvrZ 09-28-2011 12:53 PM

Thanks for the responses guys! The list of mods keeps getting longer, even though I'm crossing stuff off haha.

kenchan 09-28-2011 12:55 PM

yah like add 15mm spacers. :D

NYBladeZ 09-28-2011 01:02 PM

What sways would you guys recommend for track duty? Whitelines are extremely expensive.

birdmanx1 09-28-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1333860)
yah like add 15mm spacers. :D

yah like adding GTR button :p

Mike 09-28-2011 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 1333879)
What sways would you guys recommend for track duty? Whitelines are extremely expensive.

I use stillen, with the rear on medium. I believe the stillen and Hotchkis have the same specs, but the stillen is cheaper. I could be wrong on that because I bought them 2 years ago. If they aren't identical though, they are close.

Red__Zed 09-28-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1334706)
I use stillen, with the rear on medium. I believe the stillen and Hotchkis have the same specs, but the stillen is cheaper. I could be wrong on that because I bought them 2 years ago. If they aren't identical though, they are close.

hotchkis has a significantly stiffer front bar, which to me is not a good thing

joshs09slvrZ 09-29-2011 05:19 PM

Is disassembly of the exhaust necessary to install the rear sway?

SPOHN 09-29-2011 05:23 PM

Yes

joshs09slvrZ 09-29-2011 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1336441)
Yes

Blah...I just installed my exhaust like 2 weeks ago. I am NOT getting back under there right now. Guess these will have to wait lol.

m4a1mustang 09-29-2011 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by joshs09slvrZ (Post 1336442)
Blah...I just installed my exhaust like 2 weeks ago. I am NOT getting back under there right now. Guess these will have to wait lol.

:icon17:

kellyefields 09-29-2011 06:58 PM

josh I am running the stillen sways and am local in tampa if you want to take a look/ride and see if you like the difference. just pm me.

KevinB 09-30-2011 06:23 AM

Anyone have a table or spreadsheet comparing stiffness of stock, nismo, and aftermarket sways including sizes and weight?

Alchemy 09-30-2011 06:27 AM

Def get both sway bars. Im about to order my Stillen sways within the next week :tup:

joshs09slvrZ 09-30-2011 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kellyefields (Post 1336645)
josh I am running the stillen sways and am local in tampa if you want to take a look/ride and see if you like the difference. just pm me.

Thanks for the offer! Where abouts in Tampa are you?

kellyefields 09-30-2011 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by joshs09slvrZ (Post 1337650)
Thanks for the offer! Where abouts in Tampa are you?

I live over in valrico/brandon area just off 60 but work on base.

sig11 09-30-2011 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1334808)
hotchkis has a significantly stiffer front bar, which to me is not a good thing

This is very true. I may swap back the stock front bar next year after driving around with the front Hotchkis bar disconnected for a while. Much easier to get a little loose.

JB1 09-30-2011 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by joshs09slvrZ (Post 1336436)
Is disassembly of the exhaust necessary to install the rear sway?

No, no need to completely disassemble the exhaust. Taking the exhaust off of the rear hangers gives you just enough space to wiggle the sway bars in. It's a bit of a PITA but it is doable. I have the Berk CBE as well.

Red__Zed 09-30-2011 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sig11 (Post 1338147)
This is very true. I may swap back the stock front bar next year after driving around with the front Hotchkis bar disconnected for a while. Much easier to get a little loose.

So many people ruin the dynamics of their car installing those bars:shakes head:

joshs09slvrZ 09-30-2011 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1338482)
So many people ruin the dynamics of their car installing those bars:shakes head:

What do you mean?

Red__Zed 09-30-2011 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by joshs09slvrZ (Post 1338527)
What do you mean?

Hotchkis front bar is too much unless you are willing to run 3.5+ degrees of camber up front, and even then it's questionable for how most drive.


As with any suspension mod...if you don't know why you are doing it, don't.


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