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andrewkd16 09-18-2011 08:06 PM

Nissan brake caliper question...
 
think i got my answer guys thanks :)

Rone 09-18-2011 08:22 PM

Don't you think that would mess with the ballance of the car? I'm not an expert either, just throwing some ideas your way.

m4a1mustang 09-18-2011 08:25 PM

:confused:

If you want more braking power in the rear, run a more aggressive pad than you do up front.

There's a reason front rotors and calipers are almost always bigger than the rears... when you slow down weight transfers to the front of the car. The fronts need to be bigger, the rears don't.

Red__Zed 09-18-2011 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1319194)
:confused:

If you want more braking power in the rear, run a more aggressive pad than you do up front.

There's a reason front rotors and calipers are almost always bigger than the rears... when you slow down weight transfers to the front of the car. The fronts need to be bigger, the rears don't.

:iagree:

being honest, the Z already has more braking capacity out back than it can use.



Also, no, you can't really bolt the fronts on the rear.

UTAMAV 09-18-2011 08:34 PM

The Nismo's rotors are 14 x 1.26 in the front and 13.8 x .79 (diameter x thickness in inches). I would gather that there would be fitment issues. Also, you also must consider i you put bigger calipers on the rear, even if they were to fit right...you are going to wear the rotor out twice as fast as the fronts. Just get you a set of stop techs, I put some on my C6 Vette....they were amazing...at a premium price however.

gomer_110 09-18-2011 08:36 PM

While I'm still rather new to Z's, just bought my first one a month ago (an '11 Nismo), I'm almost positive that doing what you're suggesting would not be an easy bolt on type mod. It would more than likely require some custom fab work for caliper brackets etc. More importantly car stability under braking will most certainly be affected in a negative way unless you have a way of adjusting the brake bias. Normally, most cars use much more front brake than rear brake, hence why the front calipers and rotors are larger than the rear.

Guard Dad 09-19-2011 01:31 AM

BAD IDEA! Lots of problems no benefits. The rear brakes are not the problem, our issues (cooling, brake fluid, and pad material) are at the front. For most track applications front brake ducts, high performance brake fluid, upgraded brake lines and competition pads front and rear will do the job.

The calipers are matched (front and rear) to achieve balanced braking. If you make a significant change at one end you'll have to change the other as well. You might as well get a complete big brake kit with matched oversized calipers and matching heavy duty rotors.

TreeSemdyZee 09-19-2011 10:20 AM

Cars are not like bicycles, most of the braking is done up front.
Don't waste your money because you'll cause serious issues.

kenchan 09-19-2011 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewkd16 (Post 1319168)
sorry this may seem like a stupid question but im not break/suspension expert...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rone (Post 1319191)
Don't you think that would mess with the ballance of the car?



resolved.. :icon17:

cossie1600 09-19-2011 11:39 AM

calll me twisted, but i would love to see what happened the first time you hit the brakes hard with the extra rear bias.......

Guard Dad 09-19-2011 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1319910)
calll me twisted, but i would love to see what happened the first time you hit the brakes hard with the extra rear bias.......

You are a dashing fellow indeed! May I suggest an ice covered parking lot (February is good, and make sure it has lots of curbs and light posts too!) for the test and be sure to get video for posting the carnage on youtube.

beeristasty 09-19-2011 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 1319800)
Cars are not like bicycles, most of the braking is done up front.
Don't waste your money because you'll cause serious issues.

Cars are like bicycles in this regard, at least to an experienced cyclist. The only thing that is really different b/t a car and a bicycle is that the weight distribution is 'adjustable' on a bicycle. The same can be said for motorcycles.

Red__Zed 09-19-2011 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1319910)
calll me twisted, but i would love to see what happened the first time you hit the brakes hard with the extra rear bias.......

Even if there was a substantial change, the bias is easily adjusted...
Most ways of doing this swap would actually move the bias to be front heavy
Quote:

Originally Posted by beeristasty (Post 1320153)
Cars are like bicycles in this regard, at least to an experienced cyclist. The only thing that is really different b/t a car and a bicycle is that the weight distribution is 'adjustable' on a bicycle. The same can be said for motorcycles.

Yep, except for that initial pull, bikes are mostly front as well.

TreeSemdyZee 09-19-2011 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beeristasty (Post 1320153)
Cars are like bicycles in this regard, at least to an experienced cyclist. The only thing that is really different b/t a car and a bicycle is that the weight distribution is 'adjustable' on a bicycle. The same can be said for motorcycles.

I adjusted my weight right over the handlebars when I was a kid. :icon14:

andrewkd16 09-20-2011 11:00 AM

thanks for the replys everyone not saying i was going to do this i was more or less asking would it help in anyway or be a bad idea and i think i know which is the correct answer :)

DJ-of-E 09-20-2011 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewkd16 (Post 1321674)
thanks for the replys everyone not saying i was going to do this i was more or less asking would it help in anyway or be a bad idea and i think i know which is the correct answer :)

I suggest buying a $5000 or cheaper car and be your tuner car. I know lots of bad ideas and stupid installs happened because the person has little experience on what works for cars' performance. Unless you're loaded, the 370z is a pretty pricey card to do test ideas. I mean, take a look at the KamiSpeed thread about aftermarket engine mounts ^_^;;;

andrewkd16 09-20-2011 09:52 PM

^no i wasnt saying i am doing the mod...i was asking if it would help any with breaking. i know i might have twisted my words to make it seem like i was doing this mod but it was more of just a question about breaks since i am kinda break stupid and suspension stupid lol


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