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Red__Zed 07-23-2011 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Synack (Post 1226680)
I thought swift made coilovers as well.

fortune auto coils+ swifts for the win.

justice 07-29-2011 02:55 AM

Hey,

The answer to your question is YES. You can lower your car (slightly) without changing the springs or dampers.

Talk your car to a suspension geometry specialist and ask them to a) check the geometry and b) to release the suspension bushes.

Over time the car 'beds' into its suspension and release of the bushes, letting the car relax and retighting can lower the car by a few mm.

It may be just the ticket your looking for!

J

Synack 07-29-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by justice (Post 1235728)
Hey,

The answer to your question is YES. You can lower your car (slightly) without changing the springs or dampers.

Talk your car to a suspension geometry specialist and ask them to a) check the geometry and b) to release the suspension bushes.

Over time the car 'beds' into its suspension and release of the bushes, letting the car relax and retighting can lower the car by a few mm.

It may be just the ticket your looking for!

J

This is actually the sort of answer I was looking for.

tjlazer 07-29-2011 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Synack (Post 1225468)
Just rode on Ron's Nismo with swift springs. The ride is actually SOFTER and its lower...? Wtf? It's a softer ride than my Nismo lol.

At first feel it seems softer but it's not when you start to drive hard. The Nismo springs are linear and harsh as hell and going over a slight bump will jar your kidneys. The Swifts are kind of like a progressive/linear combo in that they ride soft (like the Sport Z) around town, but get tight when you drive hard (Like the Nismo). So yes they feel softer but they actually are stiffer springs than the Nismo. They are the best springs out there!

Red__Zed 07-29-2011 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Synack (Post 1236060)
This is actually the sort of answer I was looking for.

Let me know how that works out for you.

vividracing 07-29-2011 11:27 AM

I'm not trying to be rude, but I've been involved with this industry for a decade. Vivid Racing has been in business for a decade. I worked for a suspension company for 2 years before coming to Vivid.

What your asking to do is not possible, without redesigning suspension components. Sure, on old VWs you can adjust the torsion bars but modern cars don't use torsion bars.

The reason I'm posting is because I don't want to see you doing something unsafe or damage your car just to get a few mm lower. And honestly, re-torqueing all of your suspension is only going to get you a FEW mm lower. As in 1-3mm.

Why is it that you're so against lowering springs?

tjlazer 07-29-2011 11:30 AM

If you don't want to lower 1.2 inches you can get springs that lower less like RS*R or Tein H Tech. They lower about .5 to 1" That is what I would do, don't mess with the suspension.

Ron 07-29-2011 11:34 AM

couldn't agree more with both of the last 2 posts

cossie1600 07-29-2011 11:59 AM

Sure you can do it, cut the springs :)

tjlazer 07-29-2011 12:09 PM

and you can do it by removing air from tires, removing springs, putting a lot of weight in the car.... lol

vividracing 07-29-2011 12:20 PM

I'd like to hear the OPs reason for avoiding springs, because more than likely, it's going to come down to ride quality. A GOOD lowering spring, paired with a proper shock, won't have this issue :)

Synack 07-29-2011 01:34 PM

OH MY LORD!! Who said I was against lowering springs?! I was about to buy f*cking coilovers! Jesus christ.

Sorry for the blow up but everyone thinks I'm trying to go cheap or something and not get springs. Maybe I only wanted a few millimeters like that other guy suggested. To further clarify, I have the funds to do any of these options. I was looking for an answer like justice's in my original question.

You can relate my question to someone who wants a bit more horsepower, not 150whp, not 50whp, but maybe 5whp for not that big of an effort. The answer in that case is high flow air filters and not a GTM Twin Turbo kit.

KamiSpeed 07-29-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Synack (Post 1236435)
OH MY LORD!! Who said I was against lowering springs?! I was about to buy f*cking coilovers! Jesus christ.

Sorry for the blow up but everyone thinks I'm trying to go cheap or something and not get springs. Maybe I only wanted a few millimeters like that other guy suggested. To further clarify, I have the funds to do any of these options. I was looking for an answer like justice's in my original question.

You can relate my question to someone who wants a bit more horsepower, not 150whp, not 50whp, but maybe 5whp for not that big of an effort. The answer in that case is high flow air filters and not a GTM Twin Turbo kit.

well if you need prices on anything let me know :tiphat:

cossie1600 07-29-2011 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 1236218)
I'd like to hear the OPs reason for avoiding springs, because more than likely, it's going to come down to ride quality. A GOOD lowering spring, paired with a proper shock, won't have this issue :)

wait a second, you telling me i shouldnt use the stock shocks when i put springs that are 30 to 50% stiffer:tiphat:

Synack 07-29-2011 02:21 PM

If I did buy springs they would definitely be Swifts. I like the whole notion of soft while DD'ing and stiff when driving hard. That sounds perfect. I just wish they didn't drop it as much as they do. The only drop I want it about .3 -.4 in the front and maybe .1 in the rear. The front just looks like its up too high compared to the rear.

DJ-of-E 07-29-2011 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Synack (Post 1236533)
If I did buy springs they would definitely be Swifts. I like the whole notion of soft while DD'ing and stiff when driving hard. That sounds perfect. I just wish they didn't drop it as much as they do. The only drop I want it about .3 -.4 in the front and maybe .1 in the rear. The front just looks like its up too high compared to the rear.

Call up a shop and put an order with with Swift for that request. I think swift should be able to handle that request, but it may cost extra and you may need to wait a while.

Synack 07-29-2011 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ-of-E (Post 1236607)
Call up a shop and put an order with with Swift for that request. I think swift should be able to handle that request, but it may cost extra and you may need to wait a while.

I will see into this.

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