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edub370 05-24-2011 12:43 PM

wheel Spacer question
 
when installing wheels spacers will i need to cut any lugs down to shorten them to fit 15 mm spacers?... is this wheel dependant?

kenchan 05-24-2011 12:56 PM

Ure wheels should have the voids between the lug holes.

wheee! 05-24-2011 01:17 PM

:facepalm:

Flushnismo 05-24-2011 02:42 PM

Do you mean cut the studs...? Because I would see no reason to cut the lugs...and with a 15mm spacer I think you have to replace the studs for longer ones, someone correct me if i'm wrong.

cheshirecat 05-24-2011 03:47 PM

You cut the studs right after you cut your springs.

Then, you finish it all up by spraypainting your car matte black in your driveway.

akong51 05-24-2011 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheshirecat (Post 1130261)
You cut the studs right after you cut your springs.

Then, you finish it all up by spraypainting your car matte black in your driveway.

:bowrofl::rofl2::bowrofl:

XwChriswX 05-24-2011 04:01 PM

If you get the Type 1 spacers, then they will come with extended lugs you REPLACE the stock lugs with.

If you get they Type 2 spacers, they will come with NEW lugs attached and you bolt it on to the stock lugs.

There is no reason to ever cut your stock lugs.

kenchan 05-24-2011 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheshirecat (Post 1130261)
You cut the studs right after you cut your springs.

Then, you finish it all up by spraypainting your car matte black in your driveway.

zing! :icon17:

jpmotor 05-24-2011 04:57 PM

For 15mm, look into bolt on spacer

but then again, why not just buy wheels that fit?

edub370 05-24-2011 05:13 PM

^^because im not made of money. plus the tsw nurburgrings look soooo sick on there.

thanks XwChriswX for the info.

and to Cheshirecat.. i would spraypaint my car in my driveway, but i think recent events have indicated that ur car will get beat/keyed to sh*t if you do so... plus im kinda partial to not spraypainting my f*ckin car lol.

Sry if the question seemed dumb, but i have seen a few different spacer styles and havent ever messed with them before. soooo i didnt kno

XwChriswX 05-24-2011 05:27 PM

Type 1 - Longer Studs

http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/yhst-7468432...6_2053_3273160

Type 2 - Bolt On

http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/yhst-7468432...6_2053_2737140

kenchan 05-24-2011 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpmotor (Post 1130429)
For 15mm, look into bolt on spacer

but then again, why not just buy wheels that fit?

Wat like your made in china wheels? :D

The nurbs are cool wheels.

Fire 05-24-2011 08:02 PM

I have 20mm spacers and they where installed without issues. However I believe that some posts and instructions said that sometimes the back of the wheel has to be clearanced to fit.

edub370 05-24-2011 09:07 PM

Fire: what type of spacers are u running? i mean i see they are H&R, but are they bolt on? also, what do you mean the back of the wheel has to be clearanced to fit??

RedBullRR 05-25-2011 10:09 AM

For the fronts, I would go with a Type 1 spacer for the rear Type 2. Its what I did it's what has been recommended over and over on here. No problems with mines no shaking nothing. Looks aggressive 20 front 25 rear.

cheshirecat 05-25-2011 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBullRR (Post 1131770)
For the fronts, I would go with a Type 1 spacer for the rear Type 2. Its what I did it's what has been recommended over and over on here. No problems with mines no shaking nothing. Looks aggressive 20 front 25 rear.

Agreed. Just pound the stock lugs out of the front. The rear will be fine with a slip-on spacer with built-in lugs.

I've always had my best luck with H&R.

czheng51 05-25-2011 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBullRR (Post 1131770)
For the fronts, I would go with a Type 1 spacer for the rear Type 2. Its what I did it's what has been recommended over and over on here. No problems with mines no shaking nothing. Looks aggressive 20 front 25 rear.

may i ask what size rims you have and tire dimension to run 20mm front and 25mm rear without rubbing fender?

tjlazer 05-25-2011 10:33 AM

Just get two type 2 20mm spacers and be done with it. They will clear the front studs on the Rays 19" wheels.

gaveup 05-25-2011 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 1131845)
Just get two type 2 20mm spacers and be done with it. They will clear the front studs on the Rays 19" wheels.


Will this work as well for Base 18" wheels?

I know I read somewhere that the base wheels sit differently than the 19" Rays, so I am not sure what size spacers to get. It looks like 20mm in the front will sit flush...

CharleyGFX 05-25-2011 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 1131873)
Will this work as well for Base 18" wheels?

I know I read somewhere that the base wheels sit differently than the 19" Rays, so I am not sure what size spacers to get. It looks like 20mm in the front will sit flush...

if your riding stock height? just do what I did... Advan Sport, but wider! 245Front/275Rear.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k9...X/6c4974df.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k9...X/b2d6aca3.jpg

Looks pretty good. But I might do 5mm or 10mm in the front.. so it will be even more flush! wider tires have improved my grip too :P

czheng51 05-25-2011 11:02 AM

what if i drop my ride with tein s tech and go with ichiba 20mm front & 25mm rear with 245/35/20 front 285/30/20 tires..will i be rubbing my fenders?

CharleyGFX 05-25-2011 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czheng51 (Post 1131939)
what if i drop my ride with tein s tech and go with ichiba 20mm front & 25mm rear with 245/35/20 front 285/30/20 tires..will i be rubbing my fenders?

if your running 20's? i would not bother with lowering springs. Just do it the right way and get some coilovers.. and from what your telling me? it sounds like the Stance GR+ coilovers are what YOU want.

edub370 05-25-2011 12:43 PM

will the stock front lugs work ok with a 10-15mm spacer? i think thats all the more i want to go on the front

XwChriswX 05-25-2011 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1132320)
will the stock front lugs work ok with a 10-15mm spacer? i think thats all the more i want to go on the front

I have 5mm spacers on the rear right now, and you can only get 5 turns of the lugnuts. (With 8 being optimal, 7 being 'safe') So I constantly make sure they are torqued properly. I need to get a set of extended lugs myself, but I'm waiting to upgrade my brakes and do it all at once since the wheel will already be off and the rotors being swapped.

If you put a 10mm spacer on you're looking at getting maybe 2 rotations. Completely unsafe. If you go 10 or 15mm spacer you Will need either extended lugs or the bolt on (type 2) spacer.
Type 2's are the preferred of the two due to a more secure fit.

kenchan 05-25-2011 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1132320)
will the stock front lugs work ok with a 10-15mm spacer? i think thats all the more i want to go on the front

hey edub- are you thinking about spacers for your Nurbs? if so (as i posted a few times already) take your wheels off the car and check to see if the back of your wheels offer voids (cavity) between the lugs where the stock studs would protrude past the 15mm you're thinking about doing.

bascially you need to study a little more about the 2 different spacers available.

You're probably okay using 5mm on your Nurbs, but NOT okay if you're thinking about using them on stock sport wheels. the reason being the stock wheels are hubcentric by design (your nurbs are lugcentric by design) and have a taper going into the center bore where the car's hub mates with the wheel. if you sandwich a 5mm spacer the wheel will not sit correctly on the hub due to that taper.

also as chris mentioned above, if you can get more than 5 turns on the lug when using your Nurbs you're probably okay and ideally i like to get 7 turns as well on non-aluminum lugs. if you're use lightweight lugs (duraluminum type) i dont recommend u do the 5mm spacer unless you install longer studs. the material is soft.

hope this helps. :)

Fire 05-25-2011 02:33 PM

Edub I have the extended studs. If you use the bolt on hub(those that use the stock studs and then have another set of studs that the lugs go on) you need an area for the stock studs to extend into. If you look at the back of your rims at the hub area you may see void areas. Those are needed with the "bolt on" spacers. Most rims have void areas in the hub.

edub370 05-25-2011 02:56 PM

thanks a ton for the help kenchan and fire! you guys are life savers.

are the stock lugs just pressed in?/(how easy to put new ones in)

kenchan 05-25-2011 02:59 PM

yah, check the DIY section as there's couple threads on doing the front and rear. you will want to have an impact gun (even a cordless would work) to put the new studs in.

but again, if it's for your Nurbs chances are you can just do the Kics or Ichiba V2 type spacers which do not require the stock studs to be replaced. :)

Fire 05-25-2011 03:08 PM

Listen to Ken, Jazz. He knows what he talks about. A bit of a posting ho though LOL J/K Ken I love ya man. In a Z kind of way :bowrofl:

kenchan 05-25-2011 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire (Post 1132717)
Listen to Ken, Jazz. He knows what he talks about. A bit of a posting ho though LOL J/K Ken I love ya man. In a Z kind of way :bowrofl:

:shakes head::bowrofl::tup:

Fire 05-25-2011 03:20 PM

Ken 8500 posts, really LOL:bowrofl::icon14::excited:

edub370 05-25-2011 04:58 PM

HAHA! hey i won't complain as long as he's post whoring me useful info. thanks again kenchan

Fire 05-25-2011 05:03 PM

LOL I'm with ya.:ugh2:


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