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Kastley85891 05-02-2011 09:38 AM

How are your brakes?
 
09 with sport option..

Not been too impressed with the brakes on my Z, any one else in the same boat...
Changing lines and fluid today, next up some HPS+ pads all round , but jeez, they dont seem too clever.

kenchan 05-02-2011 09:50 AM

i only street my car so they do absolutely well for me.

are you running stock wheels or no?

Trips 05-02-2011 09:53 AM

I've done plenty of Canyon Carving and their fine so far. :)

Kastley85891 05-02-2011 10:00 AM

Maybe its just mine, or maybe I brake later then most when up in the hills?? I dunno just not that great fot the 'on paper' set up, hopefully the upgrades will get it a little more responsive and solid.

Just hill work , no track time as yet in the Z and stock RAYs

kenchan 05-02-2011 10:19 AM

also depends how much weight the car's carrying too.... :icon14:

Kastley85891 05-02-2011 10:25 AM

185 lbs and half a tank of gas,,, I have a lot of track time with spec'd up brakes, I feel I have a good understanding of a decent pedal feel and expected response relative to hardware, just feel mine are lacking.... dissapointed I have to upgrade for light work, like the oil cooler scenario I guess

Trips 05-02-2011 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1084308)
also depends how much weight the car's carrying too.... :icon14:

In my case I carry my 17yr old kid which add an extra 140 to my 185 that I'm hauling around the canyons. I'm usually going into the corners with very little braking, I let the suspension and tires hold the car around the curves to almost its limits even with the stock tires. But again others might be a little more aggresive with late braking technic?

kenchan 05-02-2011 10:30 AM

yah, sounds like braking technique. 185lbs + gas is hardly enough to overwelm. :)

triples, your kid's okay with all the turning? people usually get motion sickness when im carving canyons. :D

Kastley85891 05-02-2011 10:33 AM

They def are over whelmed, but granted even on track I brake as late as possible (not in this Z) but thats my driving style, I use the weight transfer to my advantage.. couple hundread for initial upgrade, see how it flys I guess.

Trips 05-02-2011 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1084369)
yah, sounds like braking technique. 185lbs + gas is hardly enough to overwelm. :)

triples, your kid's okay with all the turning? people usually get motion sickness when im carving canyons. :D

He loves it and since day one hasn't gotten sick on me, and I do drive like he's not there.

Kastley85891 05-02-2011 10:37 AM

Jeez, man I am a lousy passenger, I feel siiiccckkkkk

Trips 05-02-2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kastley85891 (Post 1084399)
Jeez, man I am a lousy passenger, I feel siiiccckkkkk

Being a passenger getting tossed around left to right isn't for everyone for sure ;)

But changing you're pads and fluid with added ss lines would be an improvement for sure :tup:

kenchan 05-02-2011 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 1084391)
He loves it and since day one hasn't gotten sick on me, and I do drive like he's not there.

:tup: nice.

Trips 05-02-2011 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1084456)
:tup: nice.

You should come out and join us if you're in the LA area? :driving:

kenchan 05-02-2011 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 1084470)
You should come out and join us if you're in the LA area? :driving:

thanks for the offer... :tup: but i dont live in LA any more. that was over a decade ago.


im back in my hometown in the farmlands. :rofl2:

christian370z 05-02-2011 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 1084391)
He loves it and since day one hasn't gotten sick on me, and I do drive like he's not there.

Hahahahaha.

spearfish25 05-02-2011 11:54 AM

The main 'feel' issue with the stock sport brakes is the pads. If you just don't have confidence in the brakes, get more aggressive pads. I've found that the stock pads have horrible bite and feel, but if you smoosh them, they'll still stop you. But once you drive with track pads, you'll see what the Z's brakes are capable of.

Swapping fluid and lines won't do too much if you haven't changed the pads. The fluid just helps withstand the heat issues for longer driving sessions.

cossie1600 05-02-2011 12:36 PM

Bleed the system

Kastley85891 05-02-2011 01:07 PM

With 9K miles ? - **** Id be back to Nissan on that ;-) my Pedal is firm, just end result isnt great, maybe I expect to much?
I will do the lines and Fluid, see how it is.

Shamu 05-04-2011 11:27 PM

Brakes are always my number one priority. I don't take shortcuts with brakes. I try to go with the best and most capable system available. AM Performance Brembo Caliper and Rotor kit meet that criteria for me and they are dang sexy too!

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_w...3A01%20GMT.jpg

Kastley85891 05-05-2011 06:17 AM

Thats a sweet set up - FYI SS lines an fluid flush, better pedal feel and def stop me sharper. Pads next

6MT 05-05-2011 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kastley85891 (Post 1084115)
09 with sport option..

Not been too impressed with the brakes on my Z, any one else in the same boat...
Changing lines and fluid today, next up some HPS+ pads all round , but jeez, they dont seem too clever.

You're dreaming. The brakes, although not quite "track quality", are pretty superior. But, if you're going for racing brakes... well then.

Kastley85891 05-05-2011 09:37 AM

I think they are lacking, sure they are good enough for DD, but even for light track work they need something, it depends on your expectation I guess, and what you are used to from a good braking system.
If yours are great for you I am happy for you, enjoy.

6MT 05-05-2011 10:02 AM

Thank you.

Kastley85891 05-05-2011 10:03 AM

NP Bro ;-)

flashburn 05-05-2011 10:40 AM

Every time I've hit the track with XP10/XP8 Pads on the Sports brakes, I get nothing but compliments from the instructors. They all seem to be impressed with the braking power. *shrug*

Kastley85891 05-05-2011 10:42 AM

How are the pads DD? do you change them out just for track use or just run with them?
Hows rotor wear?

Mike 05-05-2011 11:05 AM

these calipers are fine for the track, just not on our cars. They are a very high quality caliper. I have a little experience, since my powdercoating business specializes in calipers. I've torn down and rebuilt just about every brand on the market and these are a quality item. It really comes down to cooling in my opinion. My friend with a G37 Coupe has no issues when tracking.

flashburn 05-05-2011 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kastley85891 (Post 1091541)
How are the pads DD? do you change them out just for track use or just run with them?
Hows rotor wear?

I swap them out before each track session. It takes maybe 20 minutes to swap them all out. It takes longer to jack up the car and swap wheels.

cossie1600 05-05-2011 11:55 AM

your car can only stop as well as your tires, what a waste of money, donate it to me

flashburn 05-05-2011 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1091598)
these calipers are fine for the track, just not on our cars. They are a very high quality caliper. I have a little experience, since my powdercoating business specializes in calipers. I've torn down and rebuilt just about every brand on the market and these are a quality item. It really comes down to cooling in my opinion. My friend with a G37 Coupe has no issues when tracking.

So you don't think ducting will be enough as far as cooling goes? Since you are switching to Stoptech's?

spearfish25 05-05-2011 12:20 PM

Mike just wants some new toys for his car...

Mike 05-05-2011 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 1091813)
So you don't think ducting will be enough as far as cooling goes? Since you are switching to Stoptech's?

It probably would for most tracks. There is one in particular that I go to that it definitely wouldn't be good enough. But Alex is also right, I want new toys!

If they don't come in by my next track date, may 28th, I plan on running the akebonos at Barber with hawk DTC60 0r 70 pads.

btw, brembos are off the car and stripped down, ready for refinishing and sale if anyone wants a cheap front upgrade. Requires 19" wheels though, and I don't have any of those anymore.

flashburn 05-05-2011 02:03 PM

Haha, that's cool Mike. I'm still looking forward to your review of the Stoptech's. It seems like a huge chunk of change to drop for a BBK, but if I get more serious into tracking (8+ days a year), I might go ahead with it. So far I've been pretty happy with the stock ones, except for some minor issues.

Mike 05-05-2011 02:50 PM

They are uber expensive but Sharif gave me a great deal on them, and I figure if I'm gonna do it, may as well go with the best!

chuckd05 05-05-2011 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 1091801)
I swap them out before each track session. It takes maybe 20 minutes to swap them all out. It takes longer to jack up the car and swap wheels.



so 5 minutes each caliper!? you're quick...

its fine to just swap pads and leave the rotor time and time again after tracking?

cossie1600 05-06-2011 12:24 AM

If you can handle the noise and the brake dust, go for it. The carbotechs do work when they are cold, just not recommended. Mine's been on the car since my track day two weeks ago, of course I have only driven it 40 miles since....


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