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RedBullRR 04-29-2011 10:57 AM

BC Coils Specs and Questions
 
I am in the process of installing my new BC Coils, however in the manual it does not say what height it comes with out the box and what dampening setting it comes out the box.

Trying to figure out what's the best balance for street use and what others have done with there setups.

TBOX 04-29-2011 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBullRR (Post 1080274)
I am in the process of installing my new BC Coils, however in the manual it does not say what height it comes with out the box and what dampening setting it comes out the box.

Trying to figure out what's the best balance for street use and what others have done with there setups.

Yah the instructions blow.

My suggestion is put them in unadjusted, roll the car to settle and go from there.
I have mine set at 20 from soft front, 15 from soft rear. You'll find dampening is the easiest to adjust and tune. Getting your height where you want it, now that's the pita.

Kirkster 04-29-2011 12:07 PM

I actually set them up to resemble the front and rear shocks in length. I then installed them into the car.

I made measurements from the floor to the bottom of the wheel arch in the center of each wheel before I installed them. I then made the same measurements once I had put them in and driven the car a mile or three.

Pulled off the wheels and got out the strap wrench and lowered each coilover to the appropriate height. Have not needed to touch them since.

I am 15 clicks off of hard in the front and rear. Will look at changing the clickers once I have had it out on the autocross course a few times.

K

import111 04-29-2011 10:53 PM

I just winged it when I first installed them height wise. It was slammed at 1st. I had to mess with it all that 1st day but I got the ride height just where I wanted it. I am full stiff front and 4 clicks from full stiff in the rear.

RedBullRR 04-30-2011 09:31 PM

Okay so the install went smooth. The car is lowered but getting them all even is a BITCH! It's not like the horrible manual says. It would be nice if it had markings to know how low your going. It would also be nice if the barrel was 6 inches on both sides why is 1 side lower then the other?!

Whatever I got it as close as I could for now waiting for it to settle. Def love the drop.

Question... When you hit a pot hole does it seem the suspension bottoms out or that my engine and tranny slamming into the floor?

Kirkster 05-01-2011 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBullRR (Post 1082229)
Okay so the install went smooth. The car is lowered but getting them all even is a BITCH! It's not like the horrible manual says. It would be nice if it had markings to know how low your going. It would also be nice if the barrel was 6 inches on both sides why is 1 side lower then the other?!

Whatever I got it as close as I could for now waiting for it to settle. Def love the drop.

Question... When you hit a pot hole does it seem the suspension bottoms out or that my engine and tranny slamming into the floor?

If the feeling is coming from the rear then you need to adjust the shock as the shock tube needs to be screwed further into the lower housing (for lack of a better term) because the length of the shock is independent of the length of the spring in the rear. The fronts are what they are.

I have not had any instances of the suspension bottoming out on pot holes. It is firmer though, so you may need a bit of spine shock sensor recalibration to make sure it is actually a performance V.S. perception issue.

RedBullRR 05-02-2011 08:19 AM

Installed the Coilovers and made the height adjustments, but I'm a little annoyed truthly. There is no clear way of getting these all set same height. The instructions Blow donkey balls. If I measure the colar and it measures at lets say 6 inches on both sides for the front how come one site higher then the other. Then after driving for 20 miles its almost even...

Anyway I have 2 issues and maybe you guys can help me out. I have 20MM Spacers in the front and 25 in the rears. The front's are rubbing on the plastic so I'm guessing raising it should help.

From the Floor to the top of the wheel arch what is everyone running? I'm looking for measurements here. I wanted about 1.5 inch drop in the front but I'm sure I'm sitting at 2.5 cause it looks slammed. Please let me know what you guys are running. My mistake was not measuring the height before changing everything.

Second - The rear makes a clanking noise when the suspension travels out. I have the 230MM springs and the colar is almost all the way screwed in. Is it possible I made the spring to short for the shock or vice versa?

To top it off... I couldnt finish adjusting anything because my lil step brother left my nissan lock key on the wheels when we went for a test drive. I tried a few of my friends but none of them match. WTF?!

Any input would be helpful thanks!

RedBullRR 05-02-2011 03:45 PM

Bump.

weiboy718 05-02-2011 05:31 PM

Find a 12pt socket That's slightly larger than your wheel lock and hammer it in. You should be able to remove the lock and of course get a new set of locks afterwards

azn370z 05-02-2011 06:16 PM

You should order a new key or see if someone locally has them, the dealer or tire shop can take it off. The noise may be from not enough preload. Put the z on jack stands, keep the wheels on. Grab the springs and see if you can shake them.

RedBullRR 05-03-2011 08:11 AM

They keys are serialized had to order it directly from MCGaurd. 15 Bucks is better then potentially destroying my wheels.

dwntwnall4u 05-05-2011 02:05 PM

Any updates yet? I just ordered a set of BC BR type coilovers.

RedBullRR 05-06-2011 06:16 AM

Still waiting for the key. Ordered it Monday and they ship out of NY I'm in NY what gives? USPS is slow

ChrisSlicks 05-06-2011 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBullRR (Post 1093390)
Still waiting for the key. Ordered it Monday and they ship out of NY I'm in NY what gives? USPS is slow

USPS delivers next day on in city packages - it's the shipper that was slow getting it to the post office.

RedBullRR 05-07-2011 07:41 AM

Got the key and arms spending this Saturday turning wrenches.

dwntwnall4u 05-14-2011 03:50 AM

So how's it going? Are you BC coilovers set? I just received my BC's and was planning to install this weekend.

RedBullRR 05-15-2011 08:06 AM

Car is settling rite now. Dropped 1.25 all around want to lower the front to 1.5. The suspension is a step in the rite direction. Love how quickly the car recovers when cornering, or hitting bumps. Rite now I'm 25 from soft front and 15 from soft rear.

ChrisSlicks 05-15-2011 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBullRR (Post 1111797)
Car is settling rite now. Dropped 1.25 all around want to lower the front to 1.5. The suspension is a step in the rite direction. Love how quickly the car recovers when cornering, or hitting bumps. Rite now I'm 25 from soft front and 15 from soft rear.

That's pretty stiff. What springs are you running with them? Even with race tires I rarely get more than half way through the adjustment range, car gets too twitchy otherwise. But I also have 12K/10K springs and Hotchkis sway bars.

RedBullRR 05-15-2011 10:19 AM

The only thing different with my coils is I went with the 230 spring in the rear. Were do you have your set at?

ChrisSlicks 05-15-2011 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBullRR (Post 1111937)
The only thing different with my coils is I went with the 230 spring in the rear. Were do you have your set at?

So the spring rate is 10K/8K? That would explain why you run the dampers a little higher. Typically I'm at 5 front 3 rear on the street for cruising and 10/8 for street performance. For the race tires this week I ran 12/10 with good results with temperatures in the 60's. When it is warmer you usually have to dial it up a bit as the fluid flows more readily.

RedBullRR 05-16-2011 08:47 AM

^ Lowered the front to 15 matching my rear. Makes such a difference. You wouldn't think a few clicks would but it does. The car feels more comfy on the street. What are your spring rates? Considering trying 5 front 3 rear. Love the adjust-ability.

ChrisSlicks 05-16-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBullRR (Post 1113563)
^ Lowered the front to 15 matching my rear. Makes such a difference. You wouldn't think a few clicks would but it does. The car feels more comfy on the street. What are your spring rates? Considering trying 5 front 3 rear. Love the adjust-ability.

My spring rates are 2K higher than the factory standard, 12K front, 10K rear. It's a really good spring rate for track and auto-x, but probably a little bit on the stiff side for street duty, hence why I run the dampers so soft on the street. So my 5/3 is probably equivalent to you setting yours to 11/9 as a ball park guess.


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