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azn370z 04-14-2011 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by brado (Post 1054345)
when you lower the car it gives you negative camber right? so does that mean that the insides of ur tires will wear faster?

Not always, depends on who aligns your z. I've noticed with my tires the inside and outside wear evenly. I'm at about 12k.

Ron 04-14-2011 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1048973)
One piece of advice: don't listen to your friend because he doesn't know what he is talking about. You will not eat your tires after lowering the car and having an alignment done as the camber will be within factory spec and therefore will not have a significant impact on tire life.

Depending on the drop he might not be able to get the car back to spec.


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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1049020)
The Eibachs and the swift both have a mild enough drop you shouldn't need a camber kit. I think with H and R's you may need to get one, but even with them, it's not like you'll be running hellaflush levels of camber.

I have the swifts and I can tell you that you will need camber arms to get measurements back to spec. Can't speak for eibachs though.



OP if you are interested, I have a set of Nismo springs for sale that will drop you .4'' You should be able to get the car back to spec with those and thus not eating tires. PM me if you're interested.

Edit: Here's the link http://www.the370z.com/parts-sale-pr...-5k-miles.html

DIGItonium 04-14-2011 11:58 PM

Ron, did you get camber arms for the front wheels? I think my front wheels still has a little bit of negative camber. It is currently -1.6 and -1.5 for the front left and right, and -2.6 and -2.5 for the rear left and right. It's probably slightly worse now after a couple of days.

Ron 04-15-2011 12:10 AM

Yep I got front and rear camber arms and adjusted them to the same length as stock when installing for the time being.

Rear camber is pretty noticeable now, fronts don't look that bad but I'm sure I'm out of spec. It's been a week since the install so I'm getting an alignment tomorrow. I'm sure your camber increased if you got the alignment done the same day of the install. It took my front 4 days of driving around to settle from 2in wheel gap to 0.75in

Hope that helps! :)

brado 04-15-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by azn370z (Post 1054361)
Not always, depends on who aligns your z. I've noticed with my tires the inside and outside wear evenly. I'm at about 12k.

the reason i was asking was because i havnt lowered mine yet and since my tires in the front wear on the outside more, if i lower it shouldnt it make it wear more evenly without a camber kit (just in the front)?

homeryansta 04-15-2011 05:20 PM

how strong are the stock non-nismo 370z struts? how long can it withstand a 1-2 inch drop?

tjlazer 04-26-2011 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1054378)
I have the swifts and I can tell you that you will need camber arms to get measurements back to spec. Can't speak for eibachs though.

Well you are the exception not the rule, as most of us with Swift Spec R's do NOT need camber kits. I was able to get mine to -1.4 front and -1.9 rears.

If you stay under an inch you should be fine. Tein H tech springs have the most mild drop, more so than Swift or Eibach. (about .5" drop I believe) but are harder to find.

Mike 04-26-2011 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by brado (Post 1055902)
the reason i was asking was because i havnt lowered mine yet and since my tires in the front wear on the outside more, if i lower it shouldnt it make it wear more evenly without a camber kit (just in the front)?

you need an alignment. alignments from the factory suck.

KamiSpeed 04-26-2011 02:19 PM

OP if youre on the lookout for springs let me know and I can get some for you, Swift are currently on back order, the Tein H tech are special order only and the eibach are good in stock, I'd say one of these 3 won't kill your tires, but definately do an alignment and if you're still unsatisfied buy a camber kit ( the Rear SPC kit is like 200-300 so its not horrible)

brado 04-26-2011 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1074652)
you need an alignment. alignments from the factory suck.

damn i had no idea that factory allignments were bad haha. i thought it was just normal for the car. thanks though

Jessobear 04-28-2011 05:10 PM

Toe eats tires, not camber. The toe is likely going to be what goes way out of spec when you lower the car. The SPC rear camber/toe kit is cheap. Just get that and have it installed when you do your springs. The fronts you'll most likely be OK.

chops 04-28-2011 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessobear (Post 1079325)
Toe eats tires, not camber. The toe is likely going to be what goes way out of spec when you lower the car. The SPC rear camber/toe kit is cheap. Just get that and have it installed when you do your springs. The fronts you'll most likely be OK.

correct, however camber will wear the inside of your tires moreso than the outside, leading to lower treadlife. im "slammed" with no wheel gap with my coils and my front camber is -1.7 and rear is -2.5, but the toe (front/back) was able to be brought back to factory specs without any camber/toe kits. and by the way...my toe was horribly out of spec after my install!

czheng51 05-31-2011 11:12 PM

I finally decided to go with the Swift Spec-R lowering springs and SPL rear camber arms and SPC Toe Bolt installed. Some guy from Precision Z told me that the SPC front camber are trash cuz the caster and camber is all together in the same joint so its almost impossible to get alignment back to spec. He said with the mild drop i can get my front pretty close to spec. i hope he's right? cuz im not trying to buy a set of front tires ever other month since my Z is my daily driving car.

fuct 06-01-2011 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chops (Post 1079368)
correct, however camber will wear the inside of your tires moreso than the outside, leading to lower treadlife. im "slammed" with no wheel gap with my coils and my front camber is -1.7 and rear is -2.5, but the toe (front/back) was able to be brought back to factory specs without any camber/toe kits. and by the way...my toe was horribly out of spec after my install!

yea they can fix toe but it increases your camber. they fight themselves if you dont have a toe kit. that was my understanding during my cars alignmment. they can get camber back to factory but toe starts to go.

bottom line you need a rear camber AND toe kit if you have any signifigant amount of drop. (1"+)


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