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Shenouda 03-10-2011 03:16 PM

Most popular spacer combo?
 
Hey guys im planning on getting swift springs with spacers but i dont know what i should do for the spacers. I was wondering what the most popular spacer combo is. I dont want my wheels to stick out past the bumper. I was thinking 20 rear and 15 front. Thanks

cheshirecat 03-10-2011 03:19 PM

Yep, 15 front 20 rear would be the most popular.

kenchan 03-10-2011 03:32 PM

if you're lowering it why not get 20/20?

Shenouda 03-10-2011 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 979935)
if you're lowering it why not get 20/20?

Will lowering the car affect the spacer width?

chops 03-10-2011 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shenouda (Post 979953)
Will lowering the car affect the spacer width?

correct me if im wrong people, but lowering will naturally decrease (more negative) your camber, so you can therefore run a wider spacer

cheshirecat 03-10-2011 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chops (Post 979962)
correct me if im wrong people, but lowering will naturally decrease (more negative) your camber, so you can therefore run a wider spacer

Correct. This really only applies to the front, since you cannot adjust camber with the stock hardware. It makes sense to take this into account when you buy the spacer.

The rear, however, is camber adjustable.

spearfish25 03-10-2011 04:33 PM

http://www.susandwhite.com.au/sculpt...he-wheel-1.jpg

Svre46 03-10-2011 04:35 PM

I picked up all 20mm spacers. This is the thread I bought them from. There are pictures of base and sport wheels with a mild drop similar to swifts so you can get an idea of what it would look like. I don’t have pics because I am waiting on my swifts still.

http://www.the370z.com/parts-sale-pr...l-spacers.html

cheshirecat 03-11-2011 06:54 AM

Aren't the Ichiba v1's the spacers that people have had problems with in relation to steering wheel shake, etc?

I think H&R are the better spacers to go with.

Jessobear 03-11-2011 08:42 AM

Depends if you're going for looks or performance. If you're just worried about looks, a larger spacer in the rear will look better. The problem is that you're increasing the track in the rear more than the front, which will induce understeer by increasing rear grip more than front grip. For that reason, I went with 15/15. Were I to do it again, I might go 20/20, but I'll make the final call once I get some SPL rear camber arms and get the rears dialed into a reasonable amount of camber. I just lowered the car on KW Variant 1's and I'm at something like -3.4 degrees in the rear (and about -2 in the front).

cheshirecat 03-11-2011 10:55 AM

I seriously doubt you're going to be able to tell the difference in understeer because of 10mm of combined track width. Call me crazy.

Svre46 03-11-2011 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheshirecat (Post 981041)
Aren't the Ichiba v1's the spacers that people have had problems with in relation to steering wheel shake, etc?

I think H&R are the better spacers to go with.

Some people did have issues... the ones I picked up the seller did not as far as I know (have yet to install them). I think the issue was with the rings seating properly into the wheels. If they are not on the wheel properly you will get an unbalancing. The H&Rs do not use rings thus no issue. I posted them on this thread just for pictorial purposes.

Jessobear 03-11-2011 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheshirecat (Post 981381)
I seriously doubt you're going to be able to tell the difference in understeer because of 10mm of combined track width. Call me crazy.

Please tell me you're not basing that on some sort of gut reaction? That makes about as much sense as saying, "I seriously doubt you're going to be able to tell the difference in understeer because of 1 degree difference in front wheel camber."

Shenouda 03-16-2011 12:37 PM

What type of spacers do you guys recommend i go with? I think H&R are the ones most people are running.

kenchan 03-16-2011 12:46 PM

yep, H&R and Eibach are popular choices. personally i use Eibachs and Kics. i dont think Kics has offering for stud-replacement type though. only the bolt-on type. there's a DIY in the DIY section how to do the stud replacement types. :)

tjlazer 03-16-2011 01:12 PM

you can make it easy on yourself and just get some 20mm front and rear bolt on type. No need to remove studs, etc. You can easily do it yourself in no time. (will work with the front wheels too)

Jessobear 03-16-2011 06:31 PM

I used bolt-on 15mm H&R spacers in the rear and stud replacement ones in the front. Getting the old studs out is easy, getting the new ones in isn't as easy. I used an electric impact gun I borrowed from a friend and that did the trick.

bigdog1250 03-16-2011 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 990630)
you can make it easy on yourself and just get some 20mm front and rear bolt on type. No need to remove studs, etc. You can easily do it yourself in no time. (will work with the front wheels too)

The DRM (bolt on) spacers don't fit on the front of the car. From what I've read you have to get the DRS replacement studs no matter what size the spacers are. On Stillen's site where they sell the H&R Trak spacers there is a chart that shows what will fit where on the Z.

Shenouda 03-19-2011 03:41 PM

ok guys this is a little off topic but im starting to think about getting coilovers now. Since im probably gonna need new shocks, struts, or camber kits with the springs i might as well pay a little more and get the KW V1. Just wondering if coilovers need camber kits or if they can be set to factory camber without it. Thanks

Jessobear 03-23-2011 06:03 AM

I just installed a set of KW V1's on my car and it is lowered about an inch. To answer your question: no you will not be able to get back to the factory specs without a camber kit.

The front camber is totally non-adjustable and I ended up with right around 2 degrees negative, which is somewhat aggressive but fine as far as I'm concerned. The rear is a bigger problem. The least camber they were able to get was about -3.3 degrees. I'll be adding some SPC camber arms in the rear and dialing it back to a number like the front.

karotZ 03-23-2011 05:09 PM

I'm on H&R springs and spacers. Running 15mm F and 20mm R.
Check my album. You'll see the setup on Stock rays and Nismo.

CBRich 03-23-2011 07:33 PM

Probably mentioned elsewhere but is there a common setup with base wheels? I assume the offsets are different.

karotZ 03-24-2011 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 1006476)
Probably mentioned elsewhere but is there a common setup with base wheels? I assume the offsets are different.

I would just assume since the rims are smaller, without proper alignment and toe kits, it might get too much negative camber. Just a hunch.

shoopajae10 03-26-2011 06:04 PM

Where can i buy h&r spacers from?

If i were to get h&r 20mm f 25mm r , I would still need to replace the studs for f and r?

none available bolt ons?

bigdog1250 03-26-2011 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoopajae10 (Post 1013402)
Where can i buy h&r spacers from?

If i were to get h&r 20mm f 25mm r , I would still need to replace the studs for f and r?

none available bolt ons?

Stillen's website

karotZ 03-26-2011 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoopajae10 (Post 1013402)
Where can i buy h&r spacers from?

If i were to get h&r 20mm f 25mm r , I would still need to replace the studs for f and r?

none available bolt ons?

20mm has DRS meaning studs needs to be replaced but there is also 20mm that is DRM (uses existing studs) but only fits the rear, not the front. The 25mm is DRM only and only fits rear.

christian370z 03-26-2011 10:35 PM

Here is my Z dropped on Swifts with 20mm spacers all around: I think the stance is perfect along with my increased negative camber.


http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/u...8_1534copy.jpg
http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/u...2_1538copy.jpg
http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/u..._0049_1545.jpg

kenchan 03-27-2011 07:15 AM

Looks good, congrats. :D


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