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gpdriver 03-21-2009 06:14 PM

Excessive Brake Dust
 
I have driven my new manual w/sport 370z for ~500 miles now. I have excessive brake dust. It is not just on the wheels but down the side of the car and rear bumper. I also notice the front tires are starting to wear somewhat unevenly. The car had an alignment the day I purchased it because although it tracked well on the roads, the steering wheel was off center. Anyone else having similar issues? Thanks.

SoCal 370Z 03-21-2009 06:30 PM

Not yet.

alan93rsa 03-21-2009 06:44 PM

1400 miles and no issues as you note. I thought I read somewhere that Nissan had added more bias to the rear through some change in the hydraulic circuits. Anyone know about this?

Anatoray 03-21-2009 07:52 PM

I haven;'t had issues quite that bad, but I do get dust build up on the rear tires pretty quick. It doesn't spread onto the car itself though.

Pushing_Tin 03-21-2009 07:56 PM

No problems with brake dust which is a relief. My F150 and IS350 were both horrible and while the Z has some it's very light compared to the other two.

zZSportZz 03-21-2009 09:34 PM

No break dust here, but I wash my cars a lot.

arcticreaver 03-21-2009 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gpdriver (Post 46031)
I have driven my new manual w/sport 370z for ~500 miles now. I have excessive brake dust. It is not just on the wheels but down the side of the car and rear bumper. I also notice the front tires are starting to wear somewhat unevenly. The car had an alignment the day I purchased it because although it tracked well on the roads, the steering wheel was off center. Anyone else having similar issues? Thanks.

my steering wheel was off center today. i thought i f-ed up and hit something. but i check the tires and they were actually 40psi, so i let the air out. and i went to my fav mechanic and they checked it out. basically it was just that the tires are worn out unevenly. he said that is normal, and when you drive in LA, no street is perfectly paved and stuff, he said that there was no alignment problem with my baby.

basically check your tires and see the air pressure. and you should probably visit a mechanic because you really don't know why the steering wheel is off center unless a mechanic looks at it.

joeyz10 03-21-2009 10:16 PM

No problem here. 900 miles. didin't get the sport brakes because they said the regular brakes are more than enough and that it will just cost more to replace the pads.. luckily my brakes are really good and not a lotof brake dusts....

Zpil0t6 03-22-2009 10:05 AM

Replace the pads with comprable ceramics...ceramics bite well !!!but usually need one stop or 2 b4 they are up to max performance...dragging the brake as you pull out of the driveway is almost enough to warm them up.


Ceramic hawks....are fairly inexpensie...and cause littel if any dust...meaning they last long as they don't strip away material...like the stock brembo pads..

You will not notice any degredation in stopping distance.... they also help keep the brake rotor cooler. Not thats there is ANY problem with the brembo's

Just change them. spend the 220 bucks..or there abouts...you be so much happier than wiping your front wheels on every trip.


i put ceramics on all my vehicles sans motobike

09 370z
07 Z06
06 GTO
05 Busa
04 GTO (auto)

You think i like cleaning this bunch dialy ,only 2 can be garaged...

Pushing_Tin 03-22-2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zpil0t6 (Post 46159)
Replace the pads with comprable ceramics...ceramics bite well !!!but usually need one stop or 2 b4 they are up to max performance...dragging the brake as you pull out of the driveway is almost enough to warm them up.


Ceramic hawks....are fairly inexpensie...and cause littel if any dust...meaning they last long as they don't strip away material...like the stock brembo pads..

You will not notice any degredation in stopping distance.... they also help keep the brake rotor cooler. Not thats there is ANY problem with the brembo's

Just change them. spend the 220 bucks..or there abouts...you be so much happier than wiping your front wheels on every trip.


i put ceramics on all my vehicles sans motobike

09 370z
07 Z06
06 GTO
05 Busa
04 GTO (auto)

You think i like cleaning this bunch dialy ,only 2 can be garaged...


No Brembos on the 370Z FYI.

RCZ 03-22-2009 01:43 PM

No excessive dust on mine either. On the track, they dusted like crazy, but that is to be expected. Nothing out of the ordinary here.

Forrest 03-22-2009 03:27 PM

I think i actualy might have less dust on my wheels compared to my 350z. Only 530 miles but i remember after 1 week with my 350z they was sort of covered but i never cared. My wheels still clean and i have not even had to touch them yet.

semtex 03-22-2009 04:46 PM

No problems here either. Also have sport pkg. 1500 miles.

bluzman 03-22-2009 05:26 PM

No problems...4,200 miles.

joeyz10 03-22-2009 10:12 PM

Hey you already logged in 4k miles.. I can't even finish 1200 miles to finish this damm break-in!!!

AndreZ Cadena 03-22-2009 10:40 PM

^^^ I just logged 1183 tonight after my usual trip to Carlsbad from San diego to rack up miles..... I bout the car 9 days ago. i already too it to 7k though, 1200 miles is nissan being little kittys.:ughdance:

kailua 03-23-2009 04:18 AM

Have 09 Touring, Sport. These brakes have very little dust.

My 09 STI, and 05 350z had horrible brake dust, both had Brembos though.

Zpil0t6 03-24-2009 09:42 AM

I think they are brembo's made for Nissan.....sorta like sony make most of electronics..


However thats not important. Its the pads. they are high friction pads.....replace them with ceramics....as i've already said.

And you dust issue will disappear.

Perhaps someone should bring a Nismo 350 and the present 370z sport brake setups together....and i think you'll see a remarkable resemblance. Maybe not exact..but thats how they do it...you think Nissan made these brakes....they are outsourced , and since Brembo is the biggest brake whore around.....i'd bet theve even been restamped nissan.....but are in fact brembos and upon didassembly you'll find a bremo stamp.

best stopping brakes made by Nissan....lol

Greg 03-24-2009 09:45 AM

OEM pads always dust more than aftermarket pads.

Pushing_Tin 03-24-2009 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Zpil0t6 (Post 46829)
I think they are brembo's made for Nissan.....sorta like sony make most of electronics..


However thats not important. Its the pads. they are high friction pads.....replace them with ceramics....as i've already said.

And you dust issue will disappear.

Perhaps someone should bring a Nismo 350 and the present 370z sport brake setups together....and i think you'll see a remarkable resemblance. Maybe not exact..but thats how they do it...you think Nissan made these brakes....they are outsourced , and since Brembo is the biggest brake whore around.....i'd bet theve even been restamped nissan.....but are in fact brembos and upon didassembly you'll find a bremo stamp.

best stopping brakes made by Nissan....lol

Review: 2009 Nissan 370Z

The oversized aluminum-caliper multi-piston brakes (from Akebono, not Brembo) feel like they can stop world hunger.

benfiji 03-24-2009 11:25 AM

I have 4K miles and no problems so far. I could barely drive a week in my 03 350Z and the front wheel would be covered in brake dust.

LenZToy 03-24-2009 11:41 AM

Same here, only a few hundred miles. When I changed the brakes on my 03 350Z the first time, I switched to ceramics and waxed the wheels while I had them off---made a world of difference.

Zpil0t6 03-25-2009 04:09 AM

Yeah , they are good damn brakes....i assumed they were brmbo's by the almost identical distances from the 08 nismo to te 09 370z.....

They do the trick... but don't you forget....the ies also make a world of difference...
I put MPS on the Vette and ....whoa new car. I like the Bridgstones....but i fear non enthusiast willl not like the 10k mile maybe life expectancy.....if you really drive.


ceramics is the answer here.....and while you at it drop in some high boil point fluid..and have it bled... Since the car overheats .....anywhere i could save fluids from overheating i would..

kevr6 03-27-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Zpil0t6 (Post 47218)
Yeah , they are good damn brakes....i assumed they were brmbo's by the almost identical distances from the 08 nismo to te 09 370z.....

They do the trick... but don't you forget....the ies also make a world of difference...
I put MPS on the Vette and ....whoa new car. I like the Bridgstones....but i fear non enthusiast willl not like the 10k mile maybe life expectancy.....if you really drive.


ceramics is the answer here.....and while you at it drop in some high boil point fluid..and have it bled... Since the car overheats .....anywhere i could save fluids from overheating i would..

I had the Bridgestone tires on my '08 Audi TT and wore them out in 15,000 miles! And in regards to the brake dust, it's nothing compared to the German vehicles. I've been happily surprised with my short 1300 miles I've established with my Z. 2 cents anyway! :hello:

Zpil0t6 03-28-2009 08:10 AM

Yeah i've noticed that about some factory German cars......i was looking at a slick 55 Benz intraffic thinking those black rims look good...then it passed me and the rears were silver and clean.....lol i then noticed this on 2 other cars.

obviously the pad material is to blame.

On the Bridestones....I was using it under extreme circumstances with a HP enriched car. Actually given their period n the car...( traded them over for BFG new style Drag radials) they didn't seem to wear that much..... and they had well over 3800lbs and over 500 hp to deal with.

I can't rave enough about these" nissan" brakes. My first mod on every car is brake upgrade...always a smart move. Safty first.


i beleive this issue is solved....do put in the best brake fluid while your at it. trust me.

My .2 cents:stirthepot:

Chan Chee Hoe 03-28-2009 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevr6 (Post 48132)
I had the Bridgestone tires on my '08 Audi TT and wore them out in 15,000 miles! And in regards to the brake dust, it's nothing compared to the German vehicles. I've been happily surprised with my short 1300 miles I've established with my Z. 2 cents anyway! :hello:

Agreed,i have driven an Rover 75,the brakes are the same as BMW,the brake dust is very dark in colour,while the Nissan ones is lighter grey in colour.

alan93rsa 03-28-2009 11:36 AM

The European manufacturers tend to go with a softer pad which yields more dust. Porsche and BMW feel that it would be wrong to fit a sports car with pads designed around reducing dust on the wheels. The perception of 'most' of the buyers in the U.S. market is that pad dust is bad.

Chan Chee Hoe 03-28-2009 09:13 PM

So far i noticed only 1 Japanese make that have the brake dust problem is Lexus.

ChrisSlicks 03-28-2009 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chan Chee Hoe (Post 48572)
So far i noticed only 1 Japanese make that have the brake dust problem is Lexus.

Early Infiniti's had a problem because they were running a very soft pad, they fixed it quickly however.

Zpil0t6 03-29-2009 01:28 PM

even with the dust.......it wipes right off if you caught it early on....if its black you might need some soap and water.... (meaning a couple of days a- a weeks worth of buildup)

Just get into the habit of wiping them down after a days drive.....thats what i initially did.
this is best done dry .

but with the advancements in pad material you don't have to have excessive dust. or give up that excellent braking . My other Z has 6 pot brembo's up front...and it was horribly black after a day of driving.....my cheif mechanic says all Zo6 do this...so i switched to a comprable ceramic pad..Nothing quite like a clean car. Now minimal dust. So i did th same on the 370
hell all my cars have ceramic pads.

Perhaps the germans wash there cars more often. But safety is first.

Chan Chee Hoe 03-29-2009 06:18 PM

Germans never like to wash cars.!The German's has a saying "If the wheel is covered with brake dust,it means it is working fine".....

kevr6 03-29-2009 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chan Chee Hoe (Post 48848)
Germans never like to wash cars.!The German's has a saying "If the wheel is covered with brake dust,it means it is working fine".....

I work for an Audi dealership, that's definately not what my customers say! :icon17:


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