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Jeffblue 09-10-2010 10:58 PM
Camber Plates
 
I'm looking at the BC racing BR type coilovers. they mention having camber plates. What are these? do these allow me to adjust the camber to bring it back to near stock specs after lowering the car, or do i still need a camber kit/toe bolts etc.
http://www.importimageracing.com/mm5...earcamber2.jpg

Scott @ RA 09-10-2010 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 716668)
I'm looking at the BC racing BR type coilovers. they mention having camber plates. What are these? do these allow me to adjust the camber to bring it back to near stock specs after lowering the car, or do i still need a camber kit/toe bolts etc.
http://www.importimageracing.com/mm5...earcamber2.jpg
No, there is no coilover available with camber adjustments for the 370Z.
The description where you read that was a generalization... A lot of applications that BC Racing Suspension makes coilovers for are able to be equipped with the front upper camber adjustments like you are seeing in the picture.... unfortunately the 370Z is not available with camber adjustments. Its physically impossible to have camber adjustments on the coilover on a 370Z, G37, 350Z, G35 etc. To get front camber adjustments in the front of a 370Z you will need an adjustable front upper control arm.

ChrisSlicks 09-11-2010 08:06 AM
What he said.

With the 370Z/350/G35/37 moving the shock mount position does not affect the suspension geometry as it uses a double control arm setup. To change the camber you need to lengthen or shorten one of the arms to move the ball joint position. The top arm is certainly the easiest so that is the one that has an aftermarket replacement.

Those pictures are from a different vehicle with a MacPherson strut setup.

Jeffblue 09-11-2010 08:21 AM
ah, ok, thanks guys. is anyone using the the Eibach Pro Allignment Kit?


STILLEN : Eibach Pro-Alignment Kit

ChrisSlicks 09-11-2010 08:44 AM
That's the first time I've seen their upper arm. I have a mixture of SPC and SPL parts myself.

Jeffblue 09-11-2010 09:32 AM
so whats this all gonna cost. assuming my coils are about 1000 + install, then camber kit=?+install, + allignment

ChrisSlicks 09-11-2010 10:09 AM
Depending on how low you go you may not need the rear camber kit. I managed to get my rear camber to within spec with the stock adjusters.

Front camber arms are $400 ish, don't remember exactly. They were an easy install and can be done DIY by eyeballing the camber and then driving to an alignment shop. Install time < 1h.

Sway bars are also < $400 and another fairly easy DIY. Install time 2h on the garage floor, 1h on a lift.

Scott @ RA 09-11-2010 11:05 AM
Eibach = SPC .... It is the same stuff.

ChrisSlicks 09-11-2010 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott @ RA (Post 716968)
Eibach = SPC .... It is the same stuff.
Okay, good to know.

I would go for the SPL arms now that they are out, they look to be lighter and may fit better than the SPC (which is actually for a G37 Sedan or some such).

Scott @ RA 09-11-2010 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 717108)
Okay, good to know.

I would go for the SPL arms now that they are out, they look to be lighter and may fit better than the SPC (which is actually for a G37 Sedan or some such).
Yes, SPL is always the way to go, without a doubt..... +1 :tiphat:

ClemsonWill 09-13-2010 01:34 PM
Any vendors sell SPL camber arms?

fuct 09-13-2010 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 717108)
Okay, good to know.

I would go for the SPL arms now that they are out, they look to be lighter and may fit better than the SPC (which is actually for a G37 Sedan or some such).
where???? front ones right?

ChrisSlicks 09-13-2010 02:04 PM
I'm looking, thought I saw an announcement but now I can't find it.

phelan 09-13-2010 02:10 PM
http://www.the370z.com/suspension-br...ace-ready.html

http://www.the370z.com/suspension-br...-shipping.html

to cite a few...still dunno if fronts came out yet though :icon14:

fuct 09-13-2010 02:13 PM
i emailed SPL asking about the fronts. the ones for the 350 are sweet! uses plates.... neat

ChrisSlicks 09-13-2010 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 719209)
to cite a few...still dunno if fronts came out yet though :icon14:
I saw pictures of the front arms, could have been a picture of a Z33 arm though.

SE 09-13-2010 03:24 PM
Yeah the SPL front arms have not officially been released yet. I'll definitely check in with Kuah from SPL today regarding the status.

-Victor

fuct 09-13-2010 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 719213)
i emailed SPL asking about the fronts. the ones for the 350 are sweet! uses plates.... neat
i hate quoting myself but i just received this from SPL

Hi Nick!

It is a project we are working on, but it will be a while before we have the finished product to sell as this is a complicated project...

ChrisSlicks 09-13-2010 04:45 PM
They must of decided to go with lower arms instead of uppers, that would be far more complicated.

Jeffblue 09-13-2010 05:12 PM
Chris, you have the SPC front arms installed? how are they working out? i saw you had posted that your allignment got thrown out at one point? any other issues? i'm thinking of just not running a front camber kit at all, if possible.

ChrisSlicks 09-13-2010 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 719438)
Chris, you have the SPC front arms installed? how are they working out? i saw you had posted that your allignment got thrown out at one point? any other issues? i'm thinking of just not running a front camber kit at all, if possible.
I have the SPC front arms yes. The alignment can shift under very aggressive driving, but I found that if you torque it tighter than their spec it seems to hold better. After getting an alignment I put a reference mark on the arms so I can check/reset them.

If you lower the car a little then you will gain camber that way and don't necessarily need the arms.

Jeffblue 09-13-2010 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 719519)
I have the SPC front arms yes. The alignment can shift under very aggressive driving, but I found that if you torque it tighter than their spec it seems to hold better. After getting an alignment I put a reference mark on the arms so I can check/reset them.

If you lower the car a little then you will gain camber that way and don't necessarily need the arms.
i'm probably gonna wind up with BC BR coilovers with SPL rear camber kit. for now i'm just gonna run stock camber arms up front. How low do you think i can/should go without having to run camber arms for the front.

Scott @ RA 09-13-2010 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 719213)
i emailed SPL asking about the fronts. the ones for the 350 are sweet! uses plates.... neat
I am good friends with (Kuah) the owner of SPL Parts and have known him and worked with them for over 4 years. I have helped with feedback and with developing some of their great products...
.. While we were talking today on the phone about a projects we are both working on we discussed the (about to be released) 370Z/ G37 SPL Pro front upper adjustable control arms (front camber arm). I have a order in to receive some of the very first shipments of these since I have a customer waiting list for these things. IMO, the other two offerings of this part that are out there are not worth bothering with...

ChrisSlicks 09-14-2010 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 719606)
i'm probably gonna wind up with BC BR coilovers with SPL rear camber kit. for now i'm just gonna run stock camber arms up front. How low do you think i can/should go without having to run camber arms for the front.
If you drop around 1 inch you will probably increase front camber to around -2.5, -3 degrees, and rear camber can be adjusted to around -2 degrees on the stock adjuster. The stock rear adjusters are cam bolts and those can lose their settings as well.

fuct 09-14-2010 09:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott @ RA (Post 719815)
I am good friends with (Kuah) the owner of SPL Parts and have known him and worked with them for over 4 years. I have helped with feedback and with developing some of their great products...
.. While we were talking today on the phone about a projects we are both working on we discussed the (about to be released) 370Z/ G37 SPL Pro front upper adjustable conmtrol arms (front camber arm). I have a order in to recieve some of the very first shippments of these since I have a customer waiting list for these things. IMO, the other two offerings of this part that are out there are not worth bothering with...
come on man, u gotta give us a bit more info!!! are they similar to the 350Z camber kit that uses plates?


dropping my car with tein springs on stune shock yielded about an ince drop up front. my camber went from factory spec to -1.6 degrees. handling is sharper up front, but im no baller and tires mean alot to me and my pocket book.

Scott @ RA 09-14-2010 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 720268)
come on man, u gotta give us a bit more info!!! are they similar to the 350Z camber kit that uses plates?
Yes ;)

fuct 09-14-2010 01:25 PM
haha thx man


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