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2011 Nismo#91 05-30-2017 02:14 PM

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Jhill 05-30-2017 04:47 PM

Well this will be interesting. I was really looking for ohlins when I was shopping. But I guess I have mine now and can't complain, but it's ohlins!

gomer_110 05-30-2017 07:22 PM

The question I would have for anyone considering an OTS offering at Ohlins prices is why? If you're paying that kinda of money you should be going with a custom setup (spring rates, valving, N2 fill pressures, etc.) to meet your specific needs. Also, I'd be cross shopping with Penske, Moton, AST, and JRZ.

Spooler 05-30-2017 07:23 PM

The only issue I see is no top hats. Do you have to use factory ones? IF so, that would suck.

Spooler 05-30-2017 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 3658458)
The question I would have for anyone considering an OTS offering at Ohlins prices is why? If you're paying that kinda of money you should be going with a custom setup (spring rates, valving, N2 fill pressures, etc.) to meet your specific needs. Also, I'd be cross shopping with Penske, Moton, AST, and JRZ.

Do you have a link to the Penske and Motons or have contacts for either?

Jhill 05-30-2017 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 3658458)
The question I would have for anyone considering an OTS offering at Ohlins prices is why? If you're paying that kinda of money you should be going with a custom setup (spring rates, valving, N2 fill pressures, etc.) to meet your specific needs. Also, I'd be cross shopping with Penske, Moton, AST, and JRZ.

Maybe because ohlins can typically be found around the 2700 price point and anything like what your talking about will most likely be upwards of 10k. That's like why did you buy a z and not just spring for the mcclaren.

2011 Nismo#91 05-30-2017 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 3658458)
The question I would have for anyone considering an OTS offering at Ohlins prices is why? If you're paying that kinda of money you should be going with a custom setup (spring rates, valving, N2 fill pressures, etc.) to meet your specific needs. Also, I'd be cross shopping with Penske, Moton, AST, and JRZ.

That same circular argument can be made for any upgrade, why spend X dollars on something when you could send X+Y dollars for something better till you end up spending ungodly sums of money.
Of that list only JRZ offers something withing +/-10% price range.

Penske won't even talk to you for less then 10k
Moton is close at 3.8k
AST could custom make something but that would be way over 4k

This is in the low to mid 3k range, sure there are people who can and will throw the cost of another 370z at just the suspension but this is still within reason and a step up from KWv3s, not that those are bad but this is a new option for people at add to the list that most were not even aware existed because it didn't till this year.

Spooler 05-30-2017 09:34 PM

Hmm, I would do Motons for that price point before I threw on a set of Ohlins. I am very happy with what I have at the moment.

Rusty 05-30-2017 10:26 PM

For those price points. Think JRZ's. I like the JRZ RS Pro Sport with 2 way adjustment.

gomer_110 05-30-2017 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3658543)
That same circular argument can be made for any upgrade, why spend X dollars on something when you could send X+Y dollars for something better till you end up spending ungodly sums of money.
Of that list only JRZ offers something withing +/-10% price range.

Penske won't even talk to you for less then 10k
Moton is close at 3.8k
AST could custom make something but that would be way over 4k

This is in the low to mid 3k range, sure there are people who can and will throw the cost of another 370z at just the suspension but this is still within reason and a step up from KWv3s, not that those are bad but this is a new option for people at add to the list that most were not even aware existed because it didn't till this year.

You guys need to do a little more research. Plenty of shops working with Penske shocks that can set you up for way less than 10k. iirc ANZE Engineering quoted me ~4.5k for a set of double adjust, remote res. Penske's. Yes that is more than you're talking but that's also a set of shocks probably beyond what you're looking for.

Additionally, a set of single adjust AST's are probably only around 2.5-3k for a set.

Biggest trick with most of the shops/manufacturers in the shock world is to CALL THEM. For whatever stupid reason most have a poor online presence but once you call them you'll get the answers/info you're looking for.

Ape Factory 05-30-2017 11:15 PM

You can get the Ohlins for far less than $3K. The prices on the Ohlins Japan website are their version of MSRP. KTS is running a sale so they come in less than $2500.

The AST's, once you option out everything, are almost $4K. The Aragostas are essentially the same setup with their own spring, proprietary housing and coating. The internals use lots of AST parts which is why they can rebuild them right here in the states.

You can buy them at the below link, same place where you can get Aragostas. The one advantage I see to the Aragostas is the side adjuster on the rear. No need to drill holes to adjust the rear shocks. I know for some that isn't an issue but for anyone running a G37/Q60, it's a necessity due to no rear shock tower access up top.

Link: https://www.kts-web.com/ec_shop/prod...roduct_id=8498

Personally, I'd go for the double adjustable Aragosta Type SS if I had to do it all over again and specify my own spring rate.
https://www.kts-web.com/ec_shop/prod...roduct_id=8752

Go here to contact them in English. http://www.kts-web.com/overseas/contact/index.html
You'll need to give them the exact part number. They ship quickly if it isn't a holiday and their English is decent but not perfect. Various states have different importation fees. In Texas, it was like $50 total.

OptionZero 05-31-2017 01:08 AM

While ur at it, get the aragosta cup kit installed on it as well!

Jhill 05-31-2017 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 3658559)
You guys need to do a little more research. Plenty of shops working with Penske shocks that can set you up for way less than 10k. iirc ANZE Engineering quoted me ~4.5k for a set of double adjust, remote res. Penske's. Yes that is more than you're talking but that's also a set of shocks probably beyond what you're looking for.

Additionally, a set of single adjust AST's are probably only around 2.5-3k for a set.

Biggest trick with most of the shops/manufacturers in the shock world is to CALL THEM. For whatever stupid reason most have a poor online presence but once you call them you'll get the answers/info you're looking for.

I talked to AST for 3 weeks and the left hand never knew what the right hand was doing the whole time. Yes we have oem type, no we don't make oem type, wait let me get back to you on what our rates are, waiting, waiting, yes we make one way 4100 series, no we only make 5200 with remote reservoir. Gave up and said ok if you have a BMW go AST if your in JDM they don't give a **** about you. And this is last year so not like it was early in the z life cycle. So far powertrix has the best damn support of any and got me what I wanted (a truly linear performance and dual duty set up). But my bike run ohlins and I know ohlins does their research so I was looking for quiet a while but hey wouldn't do a 370z (even called them). Really strange they now decide to do it as this is most likely last year if the 370z.


Watch I bet sales suck and just like most big corps today some overpaid moron bean counter at HQ is going to go see I told you it was a bad idea to ever release 370 kit and then they'll fire the guy who finally pressed them to make a 370 kit as they missed the bus and we all already have our kits. Sad when really the 350 and 370 are so similar most companies spent pennies to make a 370 kit when all the r&d was spent on the 350.

14BlackCherry 05-31-2017 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 3658559)
You guys need to do a little more research. Plenty of shops working with Penske shocks that can set you up for way less than 10k. iirc ANZE Engineering quoted me ~4.5k for a set of double adjust, remote res. Penske's. Yes that is more than you're talking but that's also a set of shocks probably beyond what you're looking for.

Additionally, a set of single adjust AST's are probably only around 2.5-3k for a set.

Biggest trick with most of the shops/manufacturers in the shock world is to CALL THEM. For whatever stupid reason most have a poor online presence but once you call them you'll get the answers/info you're looking for.

I agree do your research, but understand that it will cost a pretty dime. I was lucky enough to find a set of Penske shocks for under 1k. With the re-valve, custom perches, custom top hats and strut mounts I'm about 3k in.

2011 Nismo#91 05-31-2017 03:30 PM

I agree with you guys, experiences vary drastically from season to shop. One shop will basically not care as soon as they hear Nissan, another might be bothered if you give them a lot of time or extras, while another will go out of their way to make everything right at a good price. And as has been mentioned online presence is on the level of a phone book, "call for information and pricing".

I just comparing MSRP's as a base line; the more patience and searching the better deal you can find.


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