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Red__Zed 07-27-2010 03:03 PM

Coilovers for Z
 
Hey guys--

I did some searching, but was hoping that there would be some new voices that would chime in. I'm looking to throw some coilovers on my Z in the near future.

I'm looking for minimal drop-- I'm not a fan of the slammed look. Probably less than an inch, but I will consider other options if they are deemed better. I believe that at less than an inch of lowering, I shouldn't need a camber kit or anything, is this correct?

Anyways, I'm looking for something that will be stiffer than stock. I've noticed in my time driving my Z that the car handles well due to body stiffness, but the suspension is very soft. I would like to rein in some of that response, but without stepping up to the level of a jaw-jarring ride.

Something like the KW Var 3's would be too soft in my mind, but I'm not looking for something track oriented either.

Thanks!

SE 07-27-2010 03:08 PM

Hey Dan,

Most coilovers have dampening and height adjustment that you can fine tune to your liking. If you want a minimal drop, lowering springs will fit the bill just fine, but as you mentioned that you want a stiffer ride, you may want to invest in a simple set of coilovers.

KW V3 is definitely one of the better coilovers on the market, but since you're not looking for something track oriented, you could spend less money on something comparable.

PM me with some more information and what price range you're looking for and I'd be more than happy to help you with your choice.

SE 07-27-2010 03:47 PM

Also forgot to mention that anytime you change your suspension settings, your alignment will be affected as a result. That being said, with a minimal drop you probably will be able to get away with not using any camber arms. Front you most likely won't need to change anything as far as camber goes, the rears should have enough adjustment in them to accomodate a minimal drop.

Red__Zed 07-27-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedElement (Post 647261)
Also forgot to mention that anytime you change your suspension settings, your alignment will be affected as a result. That being said, with a minimal drop you probably will be able to get away with not using any camber arms. Front you most likely won't need to change anything as far as camber goes, the rears should have enough adjustment in them to accomodate a minimal drop.

Thanks-- I know that I need to get an alignment-- I just know that every car is different in terms of how much you can get away with before you get to the point where the stock adjustment system can't get you into spec.

Unfortunately, I don't yet have a handle on what coils sell for on the Z. I do know that I'm not a huge fan of how the Var3's felt on my s2000 though...

SE 07-27-2010 04:36 PM

Usually the front will require little to no adjustment. We did an alignment on our shop 370Z after a coilover install and the front alignment specs were spot on. The rears were just within the factory adjustment range. It could vary from vehicle to vehicle though.

For pricing, most of the basic coilovers are within the $1000-$1400 range. BC BR, Stance GR+, and KW V1 fall in this range. I would definitely suggest taking a look at either the Stance GR+ or KW V1.

Upwards of $1500 to $2000, you can get HKS Hipermax III, KW V3, Tein Super Street/Flex.

LateralG'z 07-27-2010 05:32 PM

Tein Mono Flex's are really good. I am loving mine

Red__Zed 07-27-2010 06:36 PM

I would also be open to a good spring/shock combo. I don't need the adjustability so much.

I know I ran a ground control/koni yellow setup on my civic for autocross. If there's something that works as well on the Z, I'd be interested.

Mike 07-27-2010 08:41 PM

I would buy a set of either nimso takeoffs or S-tunes if I was you. I had the nismo ones and its what you are looking for. I think mine are sold, but you can pick them up for around 600. I think Z1 has the s-tunes for under 800 right now.

djpathfinder 07-27-2010 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LateralG'z (Post 647390)
Tein Mono Flex's are really good. I am loving mine

Cool! I can't wait to install mine. How much of a drop did you do? How much dampening did you adjust it to? Do you track your car or just do aggressive street driving? I'll have to check your profile to see if you have some before and after pics.

Jamaica 07-27-2010 11:22 PM

ha i need me some coilovers! oh lord

Scott @ RA 07-28-2010 12:34 AM

Any old springs, shocks, and coilovers will do just fine for some people.... But...
The right coilover, done the right way, with the right specs for each individuals needs and wants.... goes a long way. :tiphat: ;)

Red__Zed 07-28-2010 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott @ RA (Post 647869)
Any old springs, shocks, and coilovers will do just fine for some people.... But...
The right coilover, done the right way, with the right specs for each individuals needs and wants.... goes a long way. :tiphat: ;)

PM'd you. I want to work something out. Is there anyone on this forum running a setup that you put together?

Scott @ RA 07-28-2010 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanGizinski (Post 648792)
PM'd you. I want to work something out. Is there anyone on this forum running a setup that you put together?

Got your PM, might be easier for you to just call me directly (easier to discuss)

..And yes, there is a couple people on this particular forum already that have custom spec'd coilovers done by us (one member hasn't installed theirs yet).... I am also working on another members set right now. I have been custom valving shocks for race cars and working with top suspension companies for many years now... even before I got into tuner cars.
There might be some reviews on our custom spec'd coilovers coming sometime soon from a couple of members here who have them... From what I am being told :).
I guess just keep an eye out. :tiphat:

Mozen 07-28-2010 11:44 PM

]I am the guy who Scott is working another set of BC ERs up for. I intend to drop the car 1" in front and 0.8" in the rear. Although the BC ERs are more of a track inspired setup Scott has the advantage of putting whatever stiffness of Swift Springs on that you want. I will be using SPL Rear camber links and toe bolts to get the alignment correct.

That said i am due to take delivery of my coilovers in about a week but will not install them untill the 23rd of Aug when NST starts my 370z build. I will be more than happy to post an honest review of the BC ERs with custom valving and swift springs 12k/10k versus stock touring suspension once i have them on the car.

About anything else you may have heard.....Scott has been upfront about these coilovers and everything else, ill just leave it at that.


@ Djpathfinder From talking to a lot of people, no just Scott, i have decided to go with the above drop. To quote Mike Bonnani who used BC ERs on his Time Attack 370z
Quote:

"I would go no lower than an inch below stock ride height in order to retain as much of the stock suspension geometry articulation angles as possible. The lower these cars get, the more their geometry goes to crap."

djpathfinder 07-29-2010 12:04 AM

Good call on Scott's part to be up front with that thread and other related ones.

Mozen, good luck on your coilover purchase and install...I'm waiting to see how you will have your set-up adjusted and hear your thoughts on it and your transaction with RA...please post pictures and a good honest review with your new suspension when done. I'll post a link to a review of my own install on here (if the OP is OK with that...don't want to hijack this thread in any way) when I'm done too.


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