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bkunzi01 02-25-2009 01:37 PM

Painted Calipers
 
Hey guys just wondering what the average price to get calipers painted is and how long my car would be out of commission...can most people get this done in one day or what?

nogoodname 02-25-2009 01:41 PM

I doubt it for a one day job

gotta take it apart, then prep & paint......let it dry
and then back on the car

!xoible 02-25-2009 02:22 PM

that's poser stuff. dont do it

nogoodname 02-25-2009 02:32 PM

what, it's not a bad idea....

shumby 02-25-2009 02:33 PM

powder coat don't paint. And it look sgreat alot of G37's have done this looks really good IMO

nogoodname 02-25-2009 02:36 PM

adds flavour

!xoible 02-25-2009 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname007 (Post 35505)
what, it's not a bad idea....

it's generally looked at as someone who wants to look like they have a BBK. just my $0.02

shumby 02-25-2009 02:55 PM

^^^^^ it is a BBK on the sport package.

nogoodname 02-25-2009 03:00 PM

^^^ just owned someone....lol


they are BBK, non-sport are not worth painting

!xoible 02-25-2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby (Post 35517)
^^^^^ it is a BBK on the sport package.

ok nevermind, forgot it was a nissan forum. cool go for it

bkunzi01 02-25-2009 03:18 PM

um yeah how bout that bbk......lol (I have no idea what bbk stands for...im a noob)

nogoodname 02-25-2009 03:23 PM

BBK = Big Brake Kit

comes with the sports package

!xoible 02-25-2009 03:59 PM

what people call BBK is something you drop over 5k on in aftermarket modification, not what ships with ur car. hence the poser argument

shumby 02-25-2009 04:17 PM

so brembo's are not bbk?

AK370Z 02-25-2009 04:29 PM

The OP's question was

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Originally Posted by bkunzi01 (Post 35484)
Hey guys just wondering what the average price to get calipers painted is and how long my car would be out of commission...can most people get this done in one day or what?

Let's keep it on topic. He didn't ask "what You guys think about it?" . Let the owner of the car do w/e he likes to do!

Convert 02-25-2009 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by !xoible (Post 35522)
ok nevermind, forgot it was a nissan forum. cool go for it

So you're going to act elitist and say "oh, its just nissan lol I forgot".

Why are you on here in the first place?

And as far as pricing goes, you could purchase one of these: High Perf Caliper Paint Kit and just do it yourself, shouldn't be more than $20.

But that would probably chip over time, not to mention time consuming. If I were you I'd get them powdercoated, but of course that's a bit more expensive, I'm guessing around $100, probably less, but you'd be without a car for a few days.

mspeasl 02-25-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bkunzi01 (Post 35484)
Hey guys just wondering what the average price to get calipers painted is and how long my car would be out of commission...can most people get this done in one day or what?

I purchased the paint kit from NAPA and did it myself in one day. Drove the car the next day and I now have 30+K on them since I did it.

frost 02-25-2009 10:31 PM

I painted mine (on a previous car), it was a 2-day thing with all the cleaning and high temp baking involved. I had to use the industrial ovens at work to get to the high temp needed. I wouldn't pay someone more than a couple hundred.

MightyBobo 02-26-2009 06:32 AM

Do it right: powder coat.

bkunzi01 02-26-2009 10:54 AM

Thanks for the advice guys. I think I am going to just send them out to get powder-coated...I dont want to see what it would look like if I painted it myself (I just learned how to color inside the lines...LOL)

frost 02-26-2009 08:37 PM

Powder coating should run you about $570

Oh, and PS. To the guy who seems to think caliper painting is rice, go check out corvetteforum. There are tons of painted caliper threads, and not one person dissing them. But yeah, those corvette guys are real rice too *extreme sarcasm* :stfu:

MightyBobo 02-27-2009 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 36090)
Powder coating should run you about $570

Oh, and PS. To the guy who seems to think caliper painting is rice, go check out corvetteforum. There are tons of painted caliper threads, and not one person dissing them. But yeah, those corvette guys are real rice too *extreme sarcasm* :stfu:


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Local place in Omaha was only going to charge me $50 as long as I disassembled my calipers first...

Convert 02-27-2009 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 36090)
Powder coating should run you about $570

Oh, and PS. To the guy who seems to think caliper painting is rice, go check out corvetteforum. There are tons of painted caliper threads, and not one person dissing them. But yeah, those corvette guys are real rice too *extreme sarcasm* :stfu:

$570??? :confused:

frost 02-27-2009 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 36193)
:icon14:

Local place in Omaha was only going to charge me $50 as long as I disassembled my calipers first...

$50?! Not sure how that's possible with all the cleaning and prep.
I like cheap, but that seems tooo cheap. But the price I referred to is done by a top quality place, including:
Multiple cleaning stages, including ultrasonic
Quality certifications (ISO, QS)
Six Sigma quality standards
100% quality and leak testing
High quality powder coat, specifically for high temp applications.
And since it wasn't a local place, shipping charges

MightyBobo 02-28-2009 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 36278)
$50?! Not sure how that's possible with all the cleaning and prep.
I like cheap, but that seems tooo cheap. But the price I referred to is done by a top quality place, including:
Multiple cleaning stages, including ultrasonic
Quality certifications (ISO, QS)
Six Sigma quality standards
100% quality and leak testing
High quality powder coat, specifically for high temp applications.
And since it wasn't a local place, shipping charges

It was $50 per caliper, should throw that in there. They also do $50 per wheel, and they do the nice piston coatings too. Hell they do anything that involves powder coating.

I saw their work first hand on many things - they do a FANTASTIC job. You guys really need to get it out of your head that everything has to be expensive for a fantastic job. Pity I cant post a name, but here's a couple examples of their work.

Before:
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...2/IMG_0324.jpg
After:
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...2/IMG_0325.jpg

Before:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96...urt/new002.jpg
After:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96...urt/new012.jpg

Sorry dude, you will never be able to convince me that I should be paying $570 for something I could send these guys for a fraction of the price, and just as much quality. :)

frost 02-28-2009 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 36669)
Sorry dude, you will never be able to convince me that I should be paying $570 for something I could send these guys for a fraction of the price, and just as much quality. :)

Couple thoughts to that:
"just as much quality" is pretty debatable, since I don't know (and I imagine you may not know as of right now) what kind of certifications your place has, what their cleaning procedures are, what the quality is of the powder coat, and so on.

Also, you didn't mention the warranty of the work. This place was lifetime (original owner) guarantee.

That all being said, these are calipers for a nissan, get the best deal you can. When I was willing to spend top dollar for top quality, it was for a garage queen vette that doubled the price of the Z - a little more reason to assure the quality. And obviously, if I'm willing to spend 60k on a car, two hundred extra for assured quality was not a big deal.

MightyBobo 03-01-2009 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 36737)
And obviously, if I'm willing to spend 60k on a car, two hundred extra for assured quality was not a big deal.

Touche.

Personally Im a bargain hunter, and I like good quality at a great price. You wont see me spending more than I have to, really.

Anyway, as far as I know these guys had a lifetime warranty, but I never got anything done through them PERSONALLY so I don't know for sure.

frost 03-01-2009 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 37018)
Touche.

Personally Im a bargain hunter, and I like good quality at a great price. You wont see me spending more than I have to, really.

Anyway, as far as I know these guys had a lifetime warranty, but I never got anything done through them PERSONALLY so I don't know for sure.

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alan93rsa 03-03-2009 08:10 PM

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I painted my own calipers on a couple of cars. I figured that I would scratch/chip the paint anyway. Besides, I like to do things myself. I used a kit from the Tire Rack. Seemed to work well for me.

Not a garage queen but a bit north of $60k.

m4a1mustang 03-03-2009 08:42 PM

Meh. I painted the brake calipers on both my Mustangs. Nothing fancy, though... just black. I hated that horrible untreated metal look. Just used some high-temp paint and it held up great for the life of the car.

SHIFT_Z 03-04-2009 04:31 PM

Go powder coat...my guy does it for $20/caliper. real quality work..

kustomZ 03-08-2009 07:09 PM

Eastwood makes a quality product that I've used before. Here is the link

Powder coating is also a very good option, and it can stand up to some brutal treatment! A lot of guys in the custom truck scene powdercoat their entire suspension, and some even go so far as to do the entire frame!

RCZ 03-08-2009 07:58 PM

1) Why in the world would anyone powdercoat pistons?
2) If you do it right, painted calipers can look alright, the problem is that it is very easy to cross the line into tacky, just pick the color carefully...

kustomZ 03-08-2009 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 40785)
1) Why in the world would anyone powdercoat pistons?

X2

alan93rsa 03-09-2009 08:19 AM

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Why in the world would anyone powdercoat pistons?
I think the pistons shown are ceramic coated on the top and have an ant-friction coating on the skirts. I've had this done before. You need a very good shop to do this if you want the coatings to stick. Possibly the person who posted the piston photos was using this to show the capabilities of the shop.

MightyBobo 03-09-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by alan93rsa (Post 41173)
I think the pistons shown are ceramic coated on the top and have an ant-friction coating on the skirts. I've had this done before. You need a very good shop to do this if you want the coatings to stick. Possibly the person who posted the piston photos was using this to show the capabilities of the shop.

Wow, I'm surprised you guys haven't heard of this....and yes, I was posting to show that the shop I know is VERY reputable :)

Shamelessly stolen from some powder coating shops website:

Quote:

Power Coating (Thermal Solutions)

Power coatings relate to engines/motors (cars, snowmobiles, motorcycles): almost anything with a combustion engine. Some hold heat where it's needed. Others remove unwanted heat. Some are used to reduce friction on metal-to-metal contact, while others shed lubricants. All of them increase horsepower.

Piston Coatings

Piston Coatings are formulated to provide a thermal barrier for piston domes, for corresponding combustion chambers, and valve faces. This specialized formulation withstands detonation impact while reducing surface temperatures and does not affect tolerances or compression ratios, increasing combustion chamber efficiency while increasing horsepower and part life expectancy.
Its becoming a "must-have" when building an entirely forged bottom end, just because its a fairly cheap way to extend the life of your parts, along with the other nice side effects. Shop I know only charges $25 a piston.

RCZ 03-09-2009 01:54 PM

See, I have had coated CP pistons in my last engine build, but you were talking about painting calipers and somehow you made the jump to thermal coating. Its not that we haven't heard about it, its just that no one calls it powdercoating pistons. It just really seemed like they were painting the pistons hehe my bad.

MightyBobo 03-12-2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 41327)
See, I have had coated CP pistons in my last engine build, but you were talking about painting calipers and somehow you made the jump to thermal coating. Its not that we haven't heard about it, its just that no one calls it powdercoating pistons. It just really seemed like they were painting the pistons hehe my bad.

Oh lol - see, I thought the process was very similar - just what they bake onto the pistons isnt just a paint :). I never said I was a powdercoater sadly :( lol


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