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I am running the HPS now and agree about the intial bite. They're certainly not an upgrade over the Akebono sport pads, IMO.

How were the Ferodo DS2500 compared to the stock sport pads for street driving?

I preferred the stock pads to be honest...

I'm trying out the Stillen stock pad replacements later this week, I'll chime in when I have something.

Cool, looking forward to that.

I can't stomach a set of basic Carbotechs for $300...essentially the same price as the 'better' track pads.

why not the stock pads for daily driving? They work great and are virtually dust free. I run stock rear pads and DS2500 on the fronts.

That's what I'm going back to after these HPS are done... stockers.

I was looking for stockers, but found the Stillens which are supposed to be better than stock for a similar price. Not to mention they have that "free pads if you buy rotors" promotion right now..

I suppose the stockers would hold up fine for autoX given the time between runs. The feel is just so different compared to the Carbotech XPs.

Who makes the rotors and metal matrix pads that Stillen sells, anyways? I will probably order rotors through Stillen when mine are done (may have been harsh on them about the bumper & SC but they have always been good to me for getting parts!) but wasn't quite sure who exactly manufactured them.

the bite on the stock pads are pathetic, my 350 felt much better

Its interesting because I always tell my gf, who has a G37s, that her brakes feel a lot better than mine around town. Much better initial bite. Do they not use the same compounds on both cars?

project mu ns are a great daily/sporty pad like i said...

Good question. Comparing my stock pads to the Carbotechs that I just removed...the stock pads are dust free because the pad material just smears across the face of the pad and accumulates on the trailing edge. The pads have a groove down the middle and mine are filled with old pad material. It's like using pencil erasers for brakes.

Why would Nissan would put such 'cruiser' pads on their 2nd-from-the-top sportscar? As I've said before, my wife's stock Altima pads have twice the bite of my Z's stock pads.

Keep us posted on the Stillen pads. There has to be something out there that is still pretty dust/noise free but has an improved feel and bite.

Stock pads are ceramics, almost like most aftermarket pads, which usually dont stop as well as the semi metallic (except carbotechs).

I had a RX-8, C6 Corvette, 350z prior to the 370 (small brakes). I can tell you the feel of the stock sport brakes are worse than all the cars, I havent felt brakes this bad since my 91 MR2 turbo at 14 years old!!!

Because 9 out of 10 Z owners buy the car to "cruise."