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SilverZen 03-23-2022 07:15 PM

new springs
 
So I was thinking about buying some lowering springs, and I'm working with a budget and I came across these 'GodSpeed Project' ones for $162.

Think those are a solid choice or maybe not cause it's to cheap, or should I spend a bit more for a "better" one? like this

OptionZero 03-23-2022 08:04 PM

Cheaper to cut your springs

SilverZen 03-23-2022 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 4022315)
Cheaper to cut your springs

Why so? and I hear that's not good to do, what do you recommend?

OptionZero 03-23-2022 08:51 PM

Save your money
Do it right

Fortune coils
Spl arms
Real wheels
Alignment

ZontheRocks 03-24-2022 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverZen (Post 4022317)
Why so? and I hear that's not good to do, what do you recommend?

OZ is a forum O.G. and was hitting you with the sarcasm. His build thread (linked in his signature) is a great example of multiple Z mods done right, including suspension.

The Z rides great stock and to lower it PROPERLY cost more than a set of springs. Like most products, cheaper price usually extends into everything about the product aka not the best (maybe even not that good). Can you lower the car on those springs? Yes. Will it lead to a harsher ride? Most likely. Will your tire wear be out-of-whack? For sure.

These are suggestions from wise Z brethren, but you can do you. :tup:

Tractionless 03-24-2022 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 4022333)
OZ is a forum O.G. and was hitting you with the sarcasm. His build thread (linked in his signature) is a great example of multiple Z mods done right, including suspension.

The Z rides great stock and to lower it PROPERLY cost more than a set of springs. Like most products, cheaper price usually extends into everything about the product aka not the best (maybe even not that good). Can you lower the car on those springs? Yes. Will it lead to a harsher ride? Most likely. Will your tire wear be out-of-whack? For sure.

These are suggestions from wise Z brethren, but you can do you. :tup:

FWIW you can actually cut linear springs to lower a vehicle without the ride suffering. Horrible idea to cut progressive rate springs.

babyzilla 03-24-2022 12:38 PM

I really mean no offense when I say this, but sometimes I feel like questions/threads like these are border line trolling lol

There's just too much valuable info on this forum and on the internet in general to steer away from junk like "GodSpeed Project"

ZontheRocks 03-24-2022 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyzilla (Post 4022361)
I really mean no offense when I say this, but sometimes I feel like questions/threads like these are border line trolling lol

There's just too much valuable info on this forum and on the internet in general to steer away from junk like "GodSpeed Project"

There are plenty of people out there that get into a new hobby that have no clue what they don't know. Many starting with zero knowledge. Like me and golf!

Guy bought the car and wants to lower it. Sees that doing so is expensive on an originally priced $30k+ car and asks about the cheap stuff (says he is working with a budget). For all we know, this could be the first car the owner has ever put a modification on.
We gave him a solid answer and hopefully he uses the info to make a good decision. I always suggest those that are budgeting, to budget for longer. If you can save $162 +tax and shipping, what's a few more months to get to $500 or more and get the part that you really want.

I will also add that forums are a pain to search without prior knowledge (might be first forum too!) and many of our most informative threads are buried from years of inactivity. The pinned threads on Lowering Springs (real activity 2013-17) and Suspension adjustments (2009-12) just ain't what they used to be.

SilverZen 03-24-2022 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 4022371)
There are plenty of people out there that get into a new hobby that have no clue what they don't know. Many starting with zero knowledge. Like me and golf!

Guy bought the car and wants to lower it. Sees that doing so is expensive on an originally priced $30k+ car and asks about the cheap stuff (says he is working with a budget). For all we know, this could be the first car the owner has ever put a modification on.
We gave him a solid answer and hopefully he uses the info to make a good decision. I always suggest those that are budgeting, to budget for longer. If you can save $162 +tax and shipping, what's a few more months to get to $500 or more and get the part that you really want.

I will also add that forums are a pain to search without prior knowledge (might be first forum too!) and many of our most informative threads are buried from years of inactivity. The pinned threads on Lowering Springs (real activity 2013-17) and Suspension adjustments (2009-12) just ain't what they used to be.

Yeah I'm fairly new into the car scene and still learning a few things here and there, and I know buying cheap stuff isn't always the best and I figured it being so cheap that it won't be good in the long run, and don't know much brands out there, so excuse my lack of knowledge and stuff :\ Yeah this is my technically my first car im trying to do stuff with again, after my previous car got totaled. But thanks guys for the advice, I do appreciate input, does help me learn :)

SilverZen 03-24-2022 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyzilla (Post 4022361)
I really mean no offense when I say this, but sometimes I feel like questions/threads like these are border line trolling lol

There's just too much valuable info on this forum and on the internet in general to steer away from junk like "GodSpeed Project"

Naw never knew that haha, I hear about maxspeedingrods being the worst and thats about it lol

obender66 03-26-2022 03:41 PM

Dear OP,

Disregard all the critique, go with Godspeed stuff. If it works out, you can show a finger to all snobs on this forum. If not- buying shitty parts and dealing with consequences builds character! You will be better and stronger man after disassembling and assembling your suspension. Forking out cash or credit card at the shop is equally emancipating!

OptionZero 03-26-2022 04:55 PM

Pretty easy to waste other people’s money and time

Instead of lighting money on fire, just give it to me

VHRpurr 03-27-2022 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverZen (Post 4022312)
So I was thinking about buying some lowering springs, and I'm working with a budget and I came across these 'GodSpeed Project' ones for $162.

Think those are a solid choice or maybe not cause it's to cheap, or should I spend a bit more for a "better" one? like this

Just buy the Swift SpecR springs and thank all of us later, oh, and don't forget the camber arms.

JerryDeluxe 03-28-2022 09:46 PM

Swift SpecR springs/Koni Shocks/SPL arms... Enjoy

babyzilla 03-29-2022 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryDeluxe (Post 4022561)
Swift SpecR springs/Koni Shocks/SPL arms... Enjoy

Exactly this, or

You can just disregard the critique...be a man...shell out some money...then have some things wear down...then shell out some more money...

OP, like I said, I didn't mean to offend you. I know suspension in general is expensive, but modding cars isn't cheap to begin with. With regards to what you are trying to do, there are multiple threads and posts with exactly what to do. I'm saying this because I just went through the same thing. What JerryDeluxe commented is your best best. There are so many others on here who have provided their trial and error on here. It would be a disservice to yourself by not learning from their mistakes. We aren't critiquing you, we're legitimately trying to tell you exactly what to do and how to save your money.

If you really want to save some money, skip the Konis for now. Go with the Swift springs, but you will 100% need rear camber arms, front upper control arms, and the eccentric lockout kit at the very least.

Most people will tell you to go SPL for the brand. Again, if you want to save money you can go with SPC. The more expensive, but proper way of lowering a car will be going with coilovers, but not going to get into that. Again, plenty of threads on that.

For people who are saying they didn't know anything and going with cheap stuff to learn the hard way - that doesn't make sense to me. I didn't know anything either, but you can read and research and have a much better foundation to move forward. That doesn't mean I still didn't make mistakes, but I knew enough to ask the right questions and look for information in the right places.

Also, if you are not in a rush, you can save money by being patient and waiting on things to go for sale on eBay, Mercari, Offerup, FB Marketplace, 370z classified, etc.

OP, here are some things you will need. Up to you regarding budget:

One, and done:
https://www.z1motorsports.com/spring...34-p-9074.html
https://www.z1motorsports.com/suspen...4559ca5285024a
https://www.z1motorsports.com/suspen...4559ca5285024a
https://www.z1motorsports.com/suspen...508919f1677696
https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...1342a397b93995


Good enough for now:
https://www.z1motorsports.com/spring...34-p-9074.html
https://www.z1motorsports.com/contro...699be82ede8a4e
https://www.z1motorsports.com/suspen...1342a397b93995

DON'T FORGET AN ALIGNMENT.

FYI I have SPC rear camber arms for sale.

cv129 03-29-2022 09:57 AM

Silverzen, is yours a sport pkg or base?

The choice of lowering spring is also dictated by how much lowering you want done. Some lower more than others. How much lowering are you looking for?

What's your experience level with driving a lowered car?

Are you using this car as a daily driver or just weekend?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverZen (Post 4022377)
Yeah I'm fairly new into the car scene

Are you fairly new to cars (mechanically), the car scene (getting aftermarket parts), or both?

I am asking these probing questions to get the context right, I want to make sure you understand what you are getting into before doing this.

Red Voodoo 03-29-2022 04:29 PM

One thing is for certain... Once you install new springs or coilovers, regardless of manufacturer or model, you will find yourself on your way down the suspension rabbit hole.

OptionZero 03-29-2022 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 4022582)
Silverzen, is yours a sport pkg or base?

The choice of lowering spring is also dictated by how much lowering you want done. Some lower more than others. How much lowering are you looking for?

What's your experience level with driving a lowered car?

Are you using this car as a daily driver or just weekend?



Are you fairly new to cars (mechanically), the car scene (getting aftermarket parts), or both?

I am asking these probing questions to get the context right, I want to make sure you understand what you are getting into before doing this.

Wierdly, if you get coilovers, you get spring and damper matched to each other with fully adjustable ride height to get you to exactly where you want to be!

And if you get adjustable arms you can even set your alignment to what you want, including correcting toe and camber so you can fit awesome wheels and avoid tire killing problems

You could even say spending more up front avoids alot of problems

folks come here asking about fixing the **** they screwed up going cheap

nobody ever comes here saying they regret doing it right and not having problems

SilverZen 03-29-2022 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 4022582)
Silverzen, is yours a sport pkg or base?

The choice of lowering spring is also dictated by how much lowering you want done. Some lower more than others. How much lowering are you looking for?

What's your experience level with driving a lowered car?

Are you using this car as a daily driver or just weekend?



Are you fairly new to cars (mechanically), the car scene (getting aftermarket parts), or both?

I am asking these probing questions to get the context right, I want to make sure you understand what you are getting into before doing this.

Base model, I just want my car maybe an inch lower or whatever that would look good, without me having my exhaust scraping lol. Ive had experience driving a lowered car I had before, and it would be my daily. I'm fairly new to both pretty much, but i'm a determined learner especially with things like this.

SilverZen 03-29-2022 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryDeluxe (Post 4022561)
Swift SpecR springs/Koni Shocks/SPL arms... Enjoy

hmmm, i'll look into it, thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyzilla (Post 4022577)
Exactly this, or

You can just disregard the critique...be a man...shell out some money...then have some things wear down...then shell out some more money...

OP, like I said, I didn't mean to offend you. I know suspension in general is expensive, but modding cars isn't cheap to begin with. With regards to what you are trying to do, there are multiple threads and posts with exactly what to do. I'm saying this because I just went through the same thing. What JerryDeluxe commented is your best best. There are so many others on here who have provided their trial and error on here. It would be a disservice to yourself by not learning from their mistakes. We aren't critiquing you, we're legitimately trying to tell you exactly what to do and how to save your money.

If you really want to save some money, skip the Konis for now. Go with the Swift springs, but you will 100% need rear camber arms, front upper control arms, and the eccentric lockout kit at the very least.

Most people will tell you to go SPL for the brand. Again, if you want to save money you can go with SPC. The more expensive, but proper way of lowering a car will be going with coilovers, but not going to get into that. Again, plenty of threads on that.

For people who are saying they didn't know anything and going with cheap stuff to learn the hard way - that doesn't make sense to me. I didn't know anything either, but you can read and research and have a much better foundation to move forward. That doesn't mean I still didn't make mistakes, but I knew enough to ask the right questions and look for information in the right places.

Also, if you are not in a rush, you can save money by being patient and waiting on things to go for sale on eBay, Mercari, Offerup, FB Marketplace, 370z classified, etc.

OP, here are some things you will need. Up to you regarding budget:

One, and done:
https://www.z1motorsports.com/spring...34-p-9074.html
https://www.z1motorsports.com/suspen...4559ca5285024a
https://www.z1motorsports.com/suspen...4559ca5285024a
https://www.z1motorsports.com/suspen...508919f1677696
https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...1342a397b93995


Good enough for now:
https://www.z1motorsports.com/spring...34-p-9074.html
https://www.z1motorsports.com/contro...699be82ede8a4e
https://www.z1motorsports.com/suspen...1342a397b93995

DON'T FORGET AN ALIGNMENT.

FYI I have SPC rear camber arms for sale.

haha man you didn't offend me one bit, I'm not soft and I like to hear people opinions on things so then I can gather all the information and decide what path I wanna do. I'm always skeptical on buying from 3rd party places like fb marketplace or even ebay but I'll give it a look and see what I can find. It just sucks because car parts are hella expensive and I'm just trying to figure out what I wanna do first and prioritize what mods I should do.

edit:sorry for the double post, just figured out how to multi-quote lol

cv129 03-29-2022 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 4022608)
Wierdly, if you get coilovers, you get spring and damper matched to each other will fully adjustable ride height to get you to exactly where you want to be!

And if you get adjustable arms you can even set your alignment to what you want, including correcting toe and camber so you can fit awesome wheels and avoid tire killing problems

You could even say spending more up front avoids alot of problems

folks come here asking about fixing the **** they screwed up going cheap

nobody ever comes here saying they regret doing it right and not having problems

Truth.


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