New Nismo Big Brake Kit
 

Interesting, but they need to provide more info about the setup

We should get the guy asking about the light-weight brakes to trial them!

These are the same calipers that he got without the rotors or anything else.

that will save some weight for sure! rotor-less brakes!

Fred Flintstone style of brakes. :driving:

I need a set of these. LOL

In all seriousness, I don't know who this is marketed to. If i were to go with a racing kit, i'd get something like an AP racing. For the street, the Akebono upgrade is way more cost effective.

If i'm spending money on the braking system, the ABS swap is what I would go for first.

I guess it depends on what you are doing. A track day car would benefit more than most anyone once their times start to come down. A couple of guys are getting really fast. The only reason I would need it is to slow the car down after a 1/2 mile run. Our brakes need more clamping force when you get up in the triple digits. 150 and above.

I guess I should add the price difference. If you look at just the front kit, the Nismo 6pot is a whole $1k more than the AP racing Front kit (on concept Z) I guess if you want nismo branding???

I was looking at the Stoptech trophy brakes. Nismo's are 2k cheaper when you include the carbotech pad upgrade.

Ahh I see. So many options

I updated it since I wasn't clear. StopTech's are 8k.

The guy you are referring to is Imperial, he had some fuzz with the Z1 order.

I think Abm is referring to the member that was asking about steel rotors on Z35 or somethg.

This kit has been put for a while no? Isn’t this the rebranded Stop Tech BBK?

yes! steel rotor guy

No one should be dropping $6k on brakes unless they’re hard tracking the car above stock power levels or doing regular car shows

For track people don’t they want to know stuff like boot/no boot, pad compatibility, all that jazz?

I assume it would also be compatible with the new Z which may explain its release now?

I did some digging into these when they came out in hopes they would meet my needs. (I was hoping for a lightweight steel piston caliper without dust boots)

They are Stoptechs. Specifically an anodized version of the ST60/ST40 non-Trophy designs with aluminum pistons. Pretty much all the Stoptech calipers short of their GT ones come with aluminum pistons stock.
They DO have dust boots.
You can use the ST60/40 for pad compatibility.

Compared to the Trophy kits, they are heavier due to having less material cut out, which is part of why pricing compares so favorably with the Trophy kits. Compare them to the ST60/40 kits and treat the branding and anodizing like a bonus.

They have a 1mm offset difference vs stock rotors, but Nissan Motorsports confirmed they would still work with stock rotors if someone wanted just the calipers.
They use the Aerorotors from Stoptech.

I'd say AMA, but this is all the info I've gathered on these before I struck them off my list. Everything else can be referenced from the regular Stoptech kits.

Yep, rebranded stop tech, and not the top of the line Trophy kit either. Not bad, But not as great as I would hope.

So in summary, not fully hardcore track stuff but also overkill for street application, but perfect for a convention floor and spec sheet?
At least the nismo branding gives it a pseudo jdm appeal

/\ nailed it. :tup:

So how do these compare with the GTR brakes that were on the Z Proto and are rumored to be offered on a future Z Nismo trim level?

Since these and the Akebonos are the only two official Nissan branded options for brakes. Assume they were the same price as the Akebonos, how much better are they than the Akebonos and if you had a base Z, which would you choose to upgrade to if cost was not a factor? Which has the better build quality? Would these clear stock 18" rims like the Akebonos do or do they require 19s?

The GTR brakes on the Z proto are appealing because they are bigger than the ones and…come on the car.

They arent fully track worthy either because they’lll have dust boots and street pads and street lines and street fluids. We also don’t know how good airflow will be to them yet

So…better than akebonos. Not as good as the stuff track junkies will want

Also, I have no experience personally, but reading the gtr forums, it seems like pad changes are a bitch in those calipers


If you owned a z34 and wanted a functional brake upgrade for hardcore track use, you’d pay Darkjak for his custom AP racing setup

If you wanted a cheap upgrade for light sporty driving you want Akebonos which will be way less than the GTR brembos bc of availability

If you wanted a cool brand on the spec sheet for show, you can get the gtr brakes or nismo

There may come a time when the GTR brembos with appropriate brackets from the Z34.5 become cheap and available enough to be as good an option as the akebonos but I don’t foresee that for years

Rotors: Well for one, if running this Nismo branded setup runs with OEM Akebono size rotors , there won’t be any heat capacity increase on the rotors. For heat dissipation on on the rotors, I doubt the ST rotors have any significant advantage over the existing 2 piece options.

Calipers: bigger than the akebono’s so theoretically more material to absorb heat.

How they compare to R35 OEM’s? The Omori Nismo factory uses the OEM R35 calipers on their R32 to R34 CRS setup (send complete car to Nismo, restore and upgrade from nuts and bolts, very expensive). So my subjective opinion is that if these rebranded setup isn’t being chosen, I wouldn’t pay top dollar for it just to have the name.

My guess is DarkJak’s front setup will blow this full setup out of the water, both on heat capacity, dissipation, and longevity (super thick pads).

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