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2string1 06-13-2021 05:53 PM

Comfortable Riding Shock?
 
I have a 2010 roadster with 42,000 miles. Are the shocks gone at that mileage? It seems to ride rough especially when I hit the bridge expansion joints on the interstate highway. Is there a better riding shock other than the oem ones? I don't really do any spirited driving I just want the best ride I can get without being too spongy.

Rusty 06-13-2021 08:08 PM

A set of Fortune 500 coilovers set up on the soft side.

2string1 06-14-2021 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3998546)
A set of Fortune 500 coilovers set up on the soft side.

Are you saying I should eliminate the rear coil springs?

AlWakRa 06-14-2021 08:04 AM

I think they do OEM style coilovers

2string1 06-14-2021 12:07 PM

I know it's a small car and a vert so the ride won't be like a Caddy. I'm just trying to keep it simple and improve what I have. The OEM shocks have 42k. Do you think they are worn out?

NorthStyle 06-14-2021 12:14 PM

At 42k they shouldn't be, but that'll depend on how rough of a life they've had up to that point. What are the conditions of the roads the car frequents?

JARblue 06-14-2021 12:25 PM

:iagree:

Your shocks are probably fine. Should be able to get 100K miles out of them unless you daily it offroad (some public roads are basically the equivalent of offroad).

2string1 06-14-2021 12:39 PM

Well ok on the life of my shocks. How can I get a better ride or is it not possible? I live in VT the roads get pretty rough here.

JARblue 06-14-2021 12:52 PM

Depends on your expectations. You bought a sports car. It will never have a 'soft' ride.

You can get different shocks and springs that will improve the ride for you - my guess is some FAs with softer spring rates would work well for you. Unless you have unrealistic expectations. Unfortunately, you won't get an exact answer on your solution until you find it yourself. Are you willing to spend a couple of thousand dollars to 'try-on' a set?

OptionZero 06-14-2021 01:15 PM

1) when did you buy the car? new, or used and if so at what mileage
2) has your ride changed from when you bought it
3) if no, then it is not your shocks; if yes, then its time to look at the parts to see if anything is worn or broken

You bought a ******* sports car it's never going to ride like a Lexus. I mean, it's a stock, automatic, convertible Z so its . .. really, not a sports car, but still.

ride quality is determined by spring rate, damping, whether those two things are matched, your tires, your alignment (to an extent), and the roads you're driving

You want a GOOD ride?
Put your Z in the garage and buy a ******* lexus

you want a BETTER ride than now?
get coilovers with soft rates from a reputable place that will match the damping to the rates. Fortune is pretty reliable. And stick to a decent sidewall tire

mainly, sell your car.

2string1 06-14-2021 01:37 PM

Fortune 500 says they offer a softer spring rate that may ride a little better. Not sure if it's going to be worth the money. I would probably go for the Swift springs I read they ride better. Should I go with the TRUE STYLE REAR or SEPARATE STYLE REAR? They're both the same price.

cv129 06-14-2021 01:39 PM

Hold on......if the dampers are "worn", the sensation should be more floaty, opposite of stiffer/rougher?

Unless his dampers are bent, severely restricting compression and rebound. Pretty sure this isn't happening here.

Check your tire inflation? Maybe some of the suspension and subframe bushings are worn?

At 42k miles regular driving, no your shocks shouldn't be "done". Far from it.

2string1 06-14-2021 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3998614)
Hold on......if the dampers are "worn", the sensation should be more floaty, opposite of stiffer/rougher?

Unless his dampers are bent, severely restricting compression and rebound. Pretty sure this isn't happening here.

Check your tire inflation? Maybe some of the suspension and subframe bushings are worn?

At 42k miles regular driving, no your shocks shouldn't be "done". Far from it.

When I really notice the bad ride is when I go over the interstate bridge expansion joints at 65mph. It hits them like I have no give anywhere in the suspension. I know it's a little car, but it should ride better than it does or maybe it just a 370Z thing. If it is I can live with it but if I can better it I will.

cv129 06-14-2021 02:19 PM

Either your feeling is accurate (ride quality had deteriorate), or that ride had been the same but you are now more aware of it with the longer ownership (1 yr).

If it's real, I doubt it's the shocks.

Outside shot: What tires do you have, and how worn are they? Your mileage would coincide with either a need for new tires or recently changed tires, I assume.

If you have old Potenzas: My experience is summer Potenzas yield significant increase in impact feel and noise as they wear down. I could feel a big difference even in my G37 sedan with RE-11, let alone in the Z. The increase noise and impact sensations at full tread vs 6-7/32 tread depth vs 4/32 tread depth are very noticeable.

2string1 06-14-2021 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3998620)
Either your feeling is accurate (ride quality had deteriorate), or that ride had been the same but you are now more aware of it with the longer ownership (1 yr).

If it's real, I doubt it's the shocks.

Outside shot: What tires do you have, and how worn are they? Your mileage would coincide with either a need for new tires or recently changed tires, I assume.

If you have old Potenzas: My experience is summer Potenzas yield significant increase in impact feel and noise as they wear down. I could feel a big difference even in my G37 sedan with RE-11, let alone in the Z. The increase noise and impact sensations at full tread vs 6-7/32 tread depth vs 4/32 tread depth are very notice
able.

I have brand new Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 tires. I bought the car 1 year ago and noticed then.

cv129 06-14-2021 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 2string1 (Post 3998621)
I have brand new Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 tires. I bought the car 1 year ago and noticed then.

Oh I see. Ya, it's you.

Spooler 06-14-2021 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 2string1 (Post 3998621)
I have brand new Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 tires. I bought the car 1 year ago and noticed then.

What is your tire pressure set too? Ride quality is such a subjective thing. What may be stiff to you may not bother me a bit.

Spooler 06-14-2021 04:17 PM

Try 30psi cold all the way around and see how that does. That's the tire pressure I set my suspension up to.

-ZS-Carpenter 06-14-2021 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 2string1 (Post 3998621)
I have brand new Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 tires. I bought the car 1 year ago and noticed then.

If the tire pressure doesn't help try different tires. All seasons seem to be softer than UHP summer tires like you are running now

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OptionZero 06-14-2021 04:36 PM

if you noticed this "bad" ride when you got the car a year ago ITS NOT THE CAR

sell your car

buy a lexus

or a camry or some ****

2string1 06-14-2021 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3998642)
if you noticed this "bad" ride when you got the car a year ago ITS NOT THE CAR

sell your car

buy a lexus

or a camry or some ****

I bought the car last summer from a dealer in New Hampshire. I test drove it a couple of miles on a 2 lane road. It felt fine so I bought it. On the drive back to Vermont on the interstate is when I felt the hard hits on the bridge joints at high speeds.(could be normal for a Z) I only drove the car for a month last summer and only in my town. Now that I have driven it more this summer I am asking if I can soften the ride some how. According to some, it's me and not the car. Well, that's good to know I guess. I'm running 36 psi I'll take some air out and see if it helps. I love this car.

cv129 06-14-2021 06:35 PM

Taking the psi down to 30 psi cold should make wonder. 36 psi cold means something like 39 psi while driving in the sun, on hot asphalt, and with engine heat. That's rather stiff.

2string1 06-15-2021 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3998659)
Taking the psi down to 30 psi cold should make wonder. 36 psi cold means something like 39 psi while driving in the sun, on hot asphalt, and with engine heat. That's rather stiff.

I'm going to try this today. Thanks

Spooler 06-15-2021 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3998659)
Taking the psi down to 30 psi cold should make wonder. 36 psi cold means something like 39 psi while driving in the sun, on hot asphalt, and with engine heat. That's rather stiff.

Yup, can gain about 2-4psi depending on the cars weight and how it is being used.

2string1 06-15-2021 09:32 AM

Took them down to 30psi made a big difference. Thanks, cv129 for the great advice. Saved me a lot of money on buying new tires or shocks.

cv129 06-15-2021 11:09 AM

Group effort group effort

2string1 06-15-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3998742)
Group effort group effort

:iagree:

Spooler 06-15-2021 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 2string1 (Post 3998725)
Took them down to 30psi made a big difference. Thanks, cv129 for the great advice. Saved me a lot of money on buying new tires or shocks.

Just be mindful in the colder months, the TPMS will trip if they get below 28psi I believe. May have to air them up some. Also, if you get your oil changed somewhere, make sure they know your pressure is 30psi when cold. If not, they
will raise them up with no ill intent. Checking the tire pressure is part of an oil change service.

2string1 06-15-2021 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3998758)
Just be mindful in the colder months, the TPMS will trip if they get below 28psi I believe. May have to air them up some. Also, if you get your oil changed somewhere, make sure they know your pressure is 30psi when cold. If not, they
will raise them up with no ill intent. Checking the tire pressure is part of an oil change service.

Will do. Thanks


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