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ResIpsa 02-03-2019 05:43 PM

Ohlins USA Your Killing Me!
 
*Full honesty, I ordered my sent in late January and they’re still not available and there’s no estimated time of arrival. So while they may be an amazing suspension at an amazing price as of now they’re unavailable.

Yes I know they been available overseas for years. But that meant trusting some overseas vendor with your credit card, sucking up the ridiculous value added tax, and paying the overseas shipping fees.

Ohlins has decided to feel out the U.S market for its 370Z road and track suspension. If our community shows enough interest we will have a truly superior coil over available for an amazing price point. There are some downsides which I will explain below, but the upside are more than worth it in my opinion.

Just so you know, I do not work for them. However, I did order the first set based from Ohlins USA!

There really are two levels of suspensions. With the first ranging from Tein, Koni (nonrace), BC Racing, KW V, etc... And then there is the second level consisting of AST, Moton, and Penske’s. The Ohlins fall into the second level.

If you do any type of competition ( auto cross, racing, time trails, etc.), with all things being equal between cars, you will be at an advantage ( or your competition will be at a disadvantage) if you are on Ohlins and they are on a first level suspension.

And the Ohlins cost only 2.5K. AST or Moton will set you back more than 5K. Don’t even ask about Penske.

Now the downsides.

1. Since they are testing out the waters in the United States they do not have them in stock. That means they’re coming by slow boat from Sweden. However, with enough interest they will start stocking them in the United States.

2. They’re only have two settings, soft and hard (although rebound and compression are both adjusted).

3. Spring rates are a little soft for track duty. However, custom Swift springs are available for a couple hundred bucks.

So if you’re willing to put up with the downsides, want the upper hand on your competition, or just want the best available suspension in the sub $3000 range give or Ohlins a look.

cv129 02-03-2019 06:16 PM

Always nice to have more quality parts more readily available for our platform :yum:

$2.5K is a pretty good price for that it comes with springs and aluminum top-hat. At that price, aluminum top hats are often extras (for such brand).

Would love to have independent adjustments for compression and rebound, but can't have it all for the price.

Rusty 02-03-2019 09:20 PM

I've had Ohlins on most of my street bikes. My VFR has Ohlins forks and shock on it now. :tup: Top shelf suspension.

I just wish the coilovers for the Z was a true 2 way adjustable. :( Separate compression and rebound dampening. I really like that the spring preload is separate from ride height. :tup:

DarkJak 02-04-2019 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3821540)
I've had Ohlins on most of my street bikes. My VFR has Ohlins forks and shock on it now. :tup: Top shelf suspension.

I just wish the coilovers for the Z was a true 2 way adjustable. :( Separate compression and rebound dampening. I really like that the spring preload is separate from ride height. :tup:

Glad you brought up that the DFV isn't a 2-way adjustable set. I'd been assuming they were 2 way for a while now.

Jhill 02-04-2019 04:55 PM

It’s cool that Ohlins is finally entering the scene, I was hoping they would have when I was shopping. I do wonder how much better is any they are vs some of the other options out now. Not saying Ohlins can’t be the best but at the same time just because it’s Ohlins doesn’t automatically mean this is their best tech/effort (DFV is some of their older tech and not like others can’t catch up) and even ohlins can make mistakes (their MTB stuff was way overdamped vs competition at first and has now been revised to prevent packing up and harshness). Sadly there isn’t anywhere (mags etc) that will compare multiple brands vs each other on same vehicle for an apples to apples compare and pretty sure most us on here don’t have the money to buy 4-5 different brands of coil overs to give an honest result.

AlWakRa 02-04-2019 05:46 PM

Ohlins are a quality brand, I would love to have a custom Ohlins coilover, but I don't think this will happen.

PharmDZ 02-04-2019 07:31 PM

Now this may be a dumb question but these would be true type of course, right?

Rusty 02-04-2019 11:36 PM

Interesting video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFl72NDCQY0

https://youtu.be/uFl72NDCQY0

Jhill 02-05-2019 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PharmDZ (Post 3821775)
Now this may be a dumb question but these would be true type of course, right?

I don’t believe so. I think they were actually released sometime last year (I think vivid had them) and they are like most others and used a 11k front spring and 10k rear non true type (after converting in lbs to k rating).

ResIpsa 02-05-2019 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJak (Post 3821622)
Glad you brought up that the DFV isn't a 2-way adjustable set. I'd been assuming they were 2 way for a while now.

You’re right. I fixed the original post.

cv129 02-05-2019 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJak (Post 3821622)
Glad you brought up that the DFV isn't a 2-way adjustable set. I'd been assuming they were 2 way for a while now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ResIpsa (Post 3822069)
You’re right. I fixed the original post.

Well Ohlins website does advertise it as compression and rebound adjustable, just cannot be adjusted independently. I guess it’s a “2-way”, just not a “true 2-way” as Rusty put it.

Rusty 02-05-2019 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3822108)
Well Ohlins website does advertise it as compression and rebound adjustable, just cannot be adjusted independently. I guess it’s a “2-way”, just not a “true 2-way” as Rusty put it.

Some of my research has showed me that on some. When you adjust the dampening. It will change both the compression and rebound. On others. The rebound will not change but the compression will. So........when looking. Read the fine print.

Tractionless 02-05-2019 08:32 PM

Wish there was a top shelf OE strut / shock setup. Not fond of Koni.

2011 Nismo#91 02-06-2019 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3822120)
Some of my research has showed me that on some. When you adjust the dampening. It will change both the compression and rebound. On others. The rebound will not change but the compression will. So........when looking. Read the fine print.

Yep, it depends on the quality $$$ of damper, cheaper ones tend to be all over the place when making adjustments while better one's like this one I am sure are consistent and predictable.

Jhill 02-06-2019 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3822120)
Some of my research has showed me that on some. When you adjust the dampening. It will change both the compression and rebound. On others. The rebound will not change but the compression will. So........when looking. Read the fine print.

I think you have this backwards. Typically a 1 adjuster is the low speed rebound is the major change and you may see a slight change in compression but it is minimal at best (some even put in a one way valve to ensure there is no crosstalk). For some reason the car world continues to call it a soft-firm adjuster when in reality is should be a slow-fast adjuster, if you have non true type coilovers just pull your rear shock and test it yourself and you’ll find the difference in effort to compress the shock at full soft is essentially unnoticeable vs firm yet the difference the shock returns will be instantly apparent. The reason behind this is rebound ports are smaller than compression ports as the rebound actually needs to be more restrictive than compression (may sound odd but look at any damper piston and the smaller ports are the rebound). That said the single adjuster adjust the size of the free bleed port and since that port cannot be too large otherwise you would not have enough rebound damping (all oil would flow through the main port and not the piston) so the port must be small enough to restrict on rebound which then makes it too small to flow on compression and the compression shims will lift before any major amount of oil is flowing through the bleed port.

Hopefully that makes sense

You guys can watch this guys videos for a ton of information (he does mtb suspension but has an extensive background in others)

https://youtu.be/LsxWVhpc3II

https://youtu.be/cKd5RqLBECc

Rusty 02-06-2019 08:31 PM

I claim senior moment. :D Couldn't remember exactly how it was. Was it rebound, or was it compression? :icon14:

Eagle 02-07-2019 05:35 PM

Welcome! Currently on a set of Ohlins/MINEs ESTA's with Hyperco springs and I absolutely love em

Rusty 02-07-2019 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagle (Post 3822779)
Welcome! Currently on a set of Ohlins/MINEs ESTA's with Hyperco springs and I absolutely love em

I was looking at those. They single or 2 way adjustable?

cv129 02-07-2019 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagle (Post 3822779)
Welcome! Currently on a set of Ohlins/MINEs ESTA's with Hyperco springs and I absolutely love em

Holy moly, didn’t know anyone actually bought them. That costs a pretty penny!

Rusty 02-07-2019 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3822832)
Holy moly, didn’t know anyone actually bought them. That costs a pretty penny!

$4250.00. A little cheaper than 2 way JRZ, at $4810.00

MINES Esta Ohlins Coilovers

https://www.vividracing.com/jrz-stre...-p-146314.html

Jhill 02-07-2019 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3822784)
I was looking at those. They single or 2 way adjustable?

Monotube with no reservoir is gonna be a one way rebound.

Eagle 02-08-2019 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3822784)
I was looking at those. They single or 2 way adjustable?

Yeah they're one way, but they handle amazingly well

Eagle 02-08-2019 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3822832)
Holy moly, didn’t know anyone actually bought them. That costs a pretty penny!

I lucked out, im the 2nd owner of these and didnt have to pay the premium. Bought them off a friend of mine who was one of the first people to own a 370z in the US. His car pretty much had the whole Mines catalog on it, including these coil overs.

OMGWTFBBQ 02-21-2019 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagle (Post 3822908)
I lucked out, im the 2nd owner of these and didnt have to pay the premium. Bought them off a friend of mine who was one of the first people to own a 370z in the US. His car pretty much had the whole Mines catalog on it, including these coil overs.

Damn. I am so jealous. They sound better than my Powerhouse Amuse Bilstein PSS10 lol. I’m excited to see what everyone thinks of the Ohlins though!

Hotrodz 02-22-2019 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMGWTFBBQ (Post 3827560)
Damn. I am so jealous. They sound better than my Powerhouse Amuse Bilstein PSS10 lol. I’m excited to see what everyone thinks of the Ohlins though!

Dude glad to see you are still around and checking things out!

ResIpsa 04-05-2019 07:18 AM

Important update
 
As the OP I really hyped up this suspension. I even ordered the first set in early January. But the fact of the matter is they are simply not available now.

After waiting months to get confirmation that they were shipped I received an email from Ohlins USA that they are on back order and there’s no ETA when they might be available.

Personally, I’m just gonna put my stock suspension back on and wait ( yay body roll and mechanical grip! ). But I felt it was necessary to be 100% upfront with everyone and not just be a fan boy.

Rusty 04-05-2019 07:44 AM

:(

Brendan 04-05-2019 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ResIpsa (Post 3840393)
As the OP I really hyped up this suspension. I even ordered the first set in early January. But the fact of the matter is they are simply not available now.

After waiting months to get confirmation that they were shipped I received an email from Ohlins USA that they are on back order and there’s no ETA when they might be available.

Personally, I’m just gonna put my stock suspension back on and wait ( yay body roll and mechanical grip! ). But I felt it was necessary to be 100% upfront with everyone and not just be a fan boy.

mad respect op.

I hope they get this sorted and you can give us your feedback once you have them on the car. I am all about more and better options being made available for this platform.

JARblue 04-05-2019 10:23 AM

So now this threads needs a title change. Where's a mod when you need one ... :icon17:

ResIpsa 04-05-2019 04:54 PM

Done!
 
Done

ResIpsa 04-05-2019 05:05 PM

Actually that didn’t work. Is it possible to change the post heading?

JARblue 04-05-2019 05:47 PM

Only a moderator can change thread titles.

Jhill 04-05-2019 10:50 PM

And kind of related but not, Tenneco has bought Ohlins... not a good thing in my opinion as Tenneco has already destroyed one suspension company I liked but starved them of R&D $$$ and was all about cost cutting and ran it into the ground.

Rusty 04-06-2019 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jhill (Post 3840669)
And kind of related but not, Tenneco has bought Ohlins... not a good thing in my opinion as Tenneco has already destroyed one suspension company I liked but starved them of R&D $$$ and was all about cost cutting and ran it into the ground.

I google that. Tenneco destroyed Marzocchi. :shakes head:


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