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Recker 04-16-2017 07:33 PM

Looking into a big brake kit..
 
Looking to get a new big brake kit.. wanted drilled and slotted rotors , with nice looking calipers.. don't really know too much about any brands. I don't track my car, just for street use.. thanks

Chuck33079 04-16-2017 07:50 PM

Are you okay with no real increase in performance over the sport brakes? On the street big brake kits are aesthetic items. Not necessarily a bad thing (they do look awesome), but the performance difference over sport brakes will never be noticed on the street.

Recker 04-16-2017 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3641765)
Are you okay with no real increase in performance over the sport brakes? On the street big brake kits are aesthetic items. Not necessarily a bad thing (they do look awesome), but the performance difference over sport brakes will never be noticed on the street.

Personally.. mostly going for looks rather than performance.. but if you have any suggestions for a couple kits, one for more performance and another for mostly no increase like you said, I would like to hear it!

Chuck33079 04-16-2017 08:06 PM

The reason that a big brake kit won't do anything for you on the street is that you won't be doing enough hard stops fast enough to fade the brakes. All you're really buying with big brakes is fade resistance. Even the crappy base brakes have enough force to lock up the wheel and trigger abs. Big brakes won't reduce your stopping distance, they just last longer before fading. If you want shorter stopping distances buy stickier tires.

All you really need are the sport brakes with good pads, rotors and fluid. That will cover you in 100% of non track driving. And probably 85% of track driving with a set of brake ducts.

Now if you have lots of money and are ok with dropping 3k+ just for looks (on a street car), go buy the baddest set of brembos or stoptechs your wallet can handle. Just don't expect them to be that much better. Hell, they may be worse on the streets if you can't keep enough heat in them. They're a track product, and that's the environment they were designed to function in. Not commuting to work.

Recker 04-16-2017 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3641771)
The reason that a big brake kit won't do anything for you on the street is that you won't be doing enough hard stops fast enough to fade the brakes. All you're really buying with big brakes is fade resistance. Even the crappy base brakes have enough force to lock up the wheel and trigger abs. Big brakes won't reduce your stopping distance, they just last longer before fading. If you want shorter stopping distances buy stickier tires.

All you really need are the sport brakes with good pads, rotors and fluid. That will cover you in 100% of non track driving. And probably 85% of track driving with a set of brake ducts.

Now if you have lots of money and are ok with dropping 3k+ just for looks (on a street car), go buy the baddest set of brembos or stoptechs your wallet can handle. Just don't expect them to be that much better. Hell, they may be worse on the streets if you can't keep enough heat in them. They're a track product, and that's the environment they were designed to function in. Not commuting to work.


Thanks for the response man, appreciate it! Yea I've been looking at this akebono kit for around $1600.. I mean, wouldn't wanna spend over 2k on a kit atm.. but any intel on that kit?

Chuck33079 04-16-2017 08:23 PM

You can get a set of takeoff akebonos for less than that. Look at the for sale threads here and I'll bet you could get out for $1k.

TreeSemdyZee 04-16-2017 08:38 PM

I bought a set of nearly new red Akebonos on eBay for $1100/
I think they were off of a wrecked Nismo.

They came with pads, hard lines, rubber lines and mounting bolts.

There were plenty of pics, so I could tell the shape that they were in.
I mounted them last weekend as well as Z1 stainless lines and they are perfect.

Recker 04-16-2017 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3641800)
You can get a set of takeoff akebonos for less than that. Look at the for sale threads here and I'll bet you could get out for $1k.

Alright .. ru saying I'll basically have to see if someone is personally selling? Or is there a specific thread? Sorry, a bit new to this forum/ browsing around

Recker 04-16-2017 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 3641816)
I bought a set of nearly new red Akebonos on eBay for $1100/
I think they were off of a wrecked Nismo.

They came with pads, hard lines, rubber lines and mounting bolts.

There were plenty of pics, so I could tell the shape that they were in.
I mounted them last weekend as well as Z1 stainless lines and they are perfect.

Yea.. that's not a bad deal at all, I'll probably be looking to do something like that.. thanks for the response!

TreeSemdyZee 04-16-2017 10:50 PM

I have one guy asking about my old set, but if he doesn't want it, it will be available for a lot less than that. Grey Akebonos.
I can let you know if he doesn't want it.


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OptionZero 04-16-2017 11:17 PM

Frankly a set of eBay caliper covers is the easiest, cheapest way to do what you're trying to do.

Recker 04-17-2017 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 3641853)
I have one guy asking about my old set, but if he doesn't want it, it will be available for a lot less than that. Grey Akebonos.
I can let you know if he doesn't want it.


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Alright cool! Definitely let me know..

TerribleONE 04-17-2017 09:24 AM

I absolutely love my Alcon BBK

TerribleONE 04-17-2017 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3641765)
Are you okay with no real increase in performance over the sport brakes? On the street big brake kits are aesthetic items. Not necessarily a bad thing (they do look awesome), but the performance difference over sport brakes will never be noticed on the street.

I used to think the same thing until I got my Alcons. They definitely perform better than the akebonos. I will say the cost of entry is not worth it based just on the performance difference for street driving but there is definitely an improvement.

Hotrodz 04-17-2017 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3641946)
I absolutely love my Alcon BBK

You should for $6k plus! :gtfo2:

:tiphat:

Chuck33079 04-17-2017 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3641947)
I used to think the same thing until I got my Alcons. They definitely perform better than the akebonos. I will say the cost of entry is not worth it based just on the performance difference for street driving but there is definitely an improvement.

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3641948)
You should for $6k plus! :gtfo2:

:tiphat:

Yeah, there is an improvement once you completely empty out your wallet. :rofl2: My advice to him was not aimed at the guys who are willing to drop that kind of coin on brakes.

TerribleONE 04-17-2017 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3641957)
Yeah, there is an improvement once you completely empty out your wallet. :rofl2: My advice to him was not aimed at the guys who are willing to drop that kind of coin on brakes.

Maybe that's why I feel like they perform better. Car must be so much lighter when my wallet is empty.

TerribleONE 04-17-2017 10:27 AM

Never said a 6k+ BBK is everyone's cup of tea, was simply just stating that I did notice better performance and dramatically better feel even on the street.

Chuck33079 04-17-2017 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3641968)
Never said a 6k+ BBK is everyone's cup of tea, was simply just stating that I did notice better performance and dramatically better feel even on the street.

Oh, I'm sure they work a lot better. And they damn well better for the cost :rofl2:. Not to mention they look awesome, too.

To be fair, though, you're much further down the rabbit hole as far as mods than the OP.

TreeSemdyZee 04-17-2017 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3641957)
Yeah, there is an improvement once you completely empty out your wallet. :rofl2: My advice to him was not aimed at the guys who are willing to drop that kind of coin on brakes.

Probably feels better because you don't have a big, lumpy wallet to make things feel out of balance. :driving:

TreeSemdyZee 04-29-2017 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Recker (Post 3641943)
Alright cool! Definitely let me know..

PMd.

nomodsjk 04-29-2017 07:06 PM

Steve Wiggins is selling a really nice brembo big brake kit on here and the Facebook 370z parts for sale page and is offering it for a steal...they're powder coated burgundy grape (purple) but have that jdm stlye purple to them..they look amazon

SurfDog 06-16-2017 05:42 AM

No biggie but drilled rotors are more prone to cracking. Most legit racers go with slotted only. As you say this is an aesthetic thing mostly so drilled are fine, but functionally slotted only are a bit more 'legit'. (IMHO)


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