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Red__Zed 01-23-2011 01:32 PM

Great primer!

jadeb0x 01-28-2011 06:01 PM

thanks for the numbers and tips. just posting to verify #s for my 370Z that's lowered about an inch on Espelir springs. i had installed SPC rear camber arms to adjust my rear camber to maximize rear tire life (285/35/19).

i had a shop align the car and adjust the camber. they told me that they adjusted the rear camber to -1.7 because it was in factory specs. i asked if they could adjust the camber to 0.0 because i drive the car on a regular basis. they told me that this would not be safe.

so my question, can i run 0.0 rear camber? the car is mainly for cruising the streets, and i doubt i'll be seeing any track time soon.

toe is fine. i'm just looking to see what's best and safe to get the most tire life.

djpathfinder 01-28-2011 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jadeb0x (Post 916757)
i had a shop align the car and adjust the camber. they told me that they adjusted the rear camber to -1.7 because it was in factory specs. i asked if they could adjust the camber to 0.0 because i drive the car on a regular basis. they told me that this would not be safe.

so my question, can i run 0.0 rear camber? the car is mainly for cruising the streets, and i doubt i'll be seeing any track time soon.

toe is fine. i'm just looking to see what's best and safe to get the most tire life.

Rear camber factory spec is between -1.18 and -2.17 degrees, with nominal being -1.67 degrees, according to the service manual. So, the shop aligned it properly. This should give you the best wear and safety, as recommended by Nissan. I would keep it like that.

Andyy 03-11-2011 12:57 PM

Does anyone have any Recommendations on how to have the softest ride possible, I have the 2011 nismo

hdskull 03-11-2011 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Andyy (Post 981604)
Does anyone have any Recommendations on how to have the softest ride possible, I have the 2011 nismo

Did you check out this thread?
http://www.the370z.com/nismo-370z/12...ere-first.html

Andyy 03-11-2011 02:19 PM

I did that but it still seems rough. Do you know if it is possible to soften up the dampers and would that have any negative effects?

djpathfinder 03-11-2011 02:26 PM

We have a relatively firmer ride due to the performance nature of our cars. The Nismos come with slightly lowered and stiffer springs than the base and touring models. That's the nature of the beast.

Andyy 03-11-2011 02:43 PM

So there is no adjustment dial or anything like that to soften the dampers? I figured if I did that and got progressive springs then the ride would be smoother

Does anyone have and recommendation on progressive springs?

I only have 400 miles on it. Does it get smoother after you break it in ?

hdskull 03-11-2011 06:32 PM

if you get swift springs, it'll feel smoother

njustidokite 05-07-2011 09:15 AM

Great post, taught me a lot.

jazz 05-25-2011 03:23 PM

whats the best setup? ie frim or softer

i have HKS hypermax 3, hotchkis sway bars, SPC arms(fron and rear) and it is less twitchy then the stock was but still getting it in the corners! do i go harded on the dampers or softer?

jazz 05-25-2011 03:24 PM

i feel like im going to spin the car out sometimes and is taking the fun of the car away! pls help!!

M.Bonanni 05-25-2011 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jazz (Post 1132744)
whats the best setup? ie frim or softer

i have HKS hypermax 3, hotchkis sway bars, SPC arms(fron and rear) and it is less twitchy then the stock was but still getting it in the corners! do i go harded on the dampers or softer?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazz (Post 1132750)
i feel like im going to spin the car out sometimes and is taking the fun of the car away! pls help!!

I shall answer your question with a bunch of other questions...

1. What tires/sizes?

2. What spring rates?

3. Does the car understeer or oversteer, and in what part of the corner? Right handers only? Left handers only? Both?

4. What are your alignment specs?

If you don't know the answer to these questions, that's your first step. I would also highly suggest taking on a driving instructor at your next track day if you are new to track driving. Chances are, many of your problems can be linked back to how you are driving the car.

jazz 05-26-2011 08:28 AM

1. OEM 19" 275
2. unsure ill find out. its set about 50%
3. oversteers when turning left mostly. also traction control shuts it down!
4. OEM specs

not had a track day yet as i only have 500km on it. still rocking the street!

should i start with a bit more camber? or should i firm up the ride?

it starts just before the apex of the corner and last until i start to straighten out.

ChrisSlicks 05-26-2011 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jazz (Post 1133928)
should i start with a bit more camber? or should i firm up the ride?

it starts just before the apex of the corner and last until i start to straighten out.

How are you driving the car makes a difference as well. Are you at neutral throttle by the time you reach the apex? Causing a sudden weight transfer in the middle of a corner by pouncing on the throttle is going to upset any car, stiffer suspensions are going to react more quickly as there will be less weight transfer to the drive wheels under acceleration. Very generally speaking softer suspension setups are easier to drive as the load transfer is slower and smoother, and the suspension is more compliant against mid corner bumps and less likely to upset the chassis. Advanced drivers with a balanced car are going to prefer a stiffer setup as they need everything to react more quickly. Chances are you have too much damping dialed in right now for street driving, the HKS stiffens up the rear more than the front relative to stock with 9K/9K springs. Dial it back to about 7 clicks from soft front, 5 clicks from soft rear and see how to feels. Suspension tuning is very much about driving style and personal preference so experimenting is important.


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