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GuillotineZ34 10-12-2016 12:07 PM

Electric Power Steering!
 
Hey everyone, first time poster here. I was wondering if anyone here as messed around with the idea of electric power steering.

My soul purpose for this would be to increase reliability for high performance driving. and essentially, one less thing to worry about by removing the need for fluids via a hydraulic steering system.

I've been messing around with numbers. how much weight the motor is actually moving. I was thinking about getting the electric servo from the 2nd gen versa and adapting the steering angle sensor but I don't know if the weight of the Z would cause it to burn out faster. The entire system would be insulated from the heat of the engine and surrounding components.

2011 Nismo#91 10-12-2016 12:22 PM

Most people, for high performance driving, prefer less electronics between you and the road rather than more. And if you want to save weight you'd just do away with power steering as well as the lotus elise and exige did.

BuckeyeZ 10-12-2016 12:22 PM

I've never driven a car with EPS that I liked the steering feel. Electric steering units can be noisy as well. Check out the insulation that most manufacturers will put around the EPS to reduce/eliminate the cabin noise.

....And you are just replacing a pump with an electric motor, so I don't really see the logic for reliability. I believe most manufacturers go with EPS for fuel economy improvements.

I would probably not ever buy a car with EPS, but that is just my opinion.

OptionZero 10-12-2016 12:27 PM

since when is adding electronics = more reliable?
i want to punch people that want to make stuff more complicated

buy your self an autopilot car or some ****

SouthArk370Z 10-12-2016 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeZ (Post 3565385)
....And you are just replacing a pump with an electric motor, so I don't really see the logic for reliability. ...

Fewer moving part leads to greater reliability.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3565387)
since when is adding electronics = more reliable? ...

Replacing mechanical controls with electronic controls has been more reliable since shortly after mass production of the transistor began.

2011 Nismo#91 10-12-2016 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3565389)
Replacing mechanical controls with electronic controls has been more reliable since shortly after mass production of the transistor began.

Not in a chevy. :p

GuillotineZ34 10-12-2016 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3565387)
since when is adding electronics = more reliable?
i want to punch people that want to make stuff more complicated

buy your self an autopilot car or some ****

Adding electronics to remove fluid that can boil and cause catastrophic damage is a bad thing. Electronics are ways to remove something that has to be maintained and is also a great way to reduce weight. That was brash. Hydraulics is just as complicated as electronics.

kevinpantz 10-12-2016 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckeyeZ (Post 3565385)
I've never driven a car with EPS that I liked the steering feel. Electric steering units can be noisy as well. Check out the insulation that most manufacturers will put around the EPS to reduce/eliminate the cabin noise.

s2000 had eps and I LOVED it.

kenchan 10-12-2016 08:20 PM

my GTI has electric power steering. i think it feels fake. but da good is i need to make real sharp turns in the parking garage at work so no worry going lock to lock.

Rusty 10-12-2016 08:57 PM

The newer cars with steer by wire do it for fuel mileage. It takes the power steering pump off the motor. One less thing for the motor to spin. Pretty soon, the A/C compressor with be off the motor too. Just wait until the 48 volt wiring harness becomes common. A couple of high end cars already have it.


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