I don't have dust issues with stoptech pads.

Then again, you learn not to complain about dust after you run XP12/10

Thank you kindly for the valuable info!

Excellent, thanks for the 1st hand experience. You're the first I've found here on the forum to give Stoptech experiences! Is the part number for your pads 308 or 309? From what I've read what you have are now called "Sport" and are the 309 material. They're what Stoptech includes with their big brake kits. The "Street" pads are now 308 material.

10-4 on that after running HP+'s on my last platform. Which Stoptechs are you running?

StopTech (309) vs. Powerstop (Z26)
 

I am in a similar situation. I am switching to Z1’s 2-piece rotors and brake lines to firm up the pedal as well as changing fluid. I am looking for more bite but don’t want the noise for street use and low-dust is desired. I am looking at the StopTechs Sport (309) as they seem to fit what I am looking for. This thread has been informational and my personal research has me down to 2 different pads. The StopTechs and the PowerStop Extreme (Z26). They seem to be very similar pads. The Akebonos are not bad. I just want more for the street.

Street Performance.

Gotcha, FYI Stoptech refers to them as Sport now and they're the 309 compound. Streets are now 308 compound.

From what I've read here and researched on my own you'll want the Stoptech Sport over the Z26's if dust is a worry.

I'm good on the OE pad initial bite but the harder I push the brake pedal (after initial grab) the brakes don't apply any more stopping force. I'm glad the thread helped you as well. I figured the options herein needed to be discussed more and is my reason for posting.

I'm running what they now call their 'street performance' pads

I agree, the Stop Techs seem to be the choice. I am planning to spend more time on the track next year so if the Stop Techs don't hold up, I will do the "pad switch" thing and run Carbotech 12/10 on the track. I just did not want the noise of the Carbotechs on the street. I was also looking at EBC red or yellowstuff pads but if the performance of the Stop Tech pads is on par, I will save the money.

EBC pads are junk. I had a set of Yellow's on my old car, and they were destroyed in 9k miles. And they dust a **** ton.


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Well that answers the EBC question.

So you want to have a pad good enough for performance driving but you want it to be clean like the stock pads. Your going to need to think hard and deep and decide which one you want, good brakes or clean brakes. That will be one rich brake company that figures out how to do both. I used performance friction carbon metalic a long time ago. I remember them as being pretty clean, but that was a long time ago. They were a little louder than the XP8 I'm using now. The XP8 have been amazingly quiet for me.

Resurrecting this thread. Has anyone run the Porterfield R4S pads? I've not used them since my RX-7 days years back but they were a very, very solid brake pad. From what I can remember, they took a stop or two to heat up but once up to temp, they offered excellent initial bite (not over the top) and great modulation.

What I personally like about the stock Akebono pads is the initial bite and modulation in mild conditions (under 90 degrees). I find in the Texas summers, once the brakes warm up, the initial bite is gone. The good initial bite returns when the temps cool down. But when hot, the pedal requires more travel for the same braking force. I'm also due for a brake fluid change so who knows.

I'm basically looking for something that maintains the good initial bite in hot temps for street only. Are the Nismo pads any better than the Akebono pads? Otherwise I may try the Porterfields again.

I would recommend Endless MX72's for what you need. They are awesome from cold to hot, and you can take them to a track day and not worry about going past what they can handle.

Appreciated. I've not used them in the past. I'll take a look!

A friend of mine is currently running them on his Z. Having driven it a few times now, they are some of the best pads out there for a daily driven sports car like the Z, and he has somewhere around 50k on them, with a couple track days as well. I am personally running the ME20's from Endless, but they are a couple steps above the MX72's.

For availability, your best bet is to talk with John at Corner3 Motorsports out in California. He goes over to Endless USA quite often.