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Billibob22 08-29-2016 12:52 PM

Loose clutch petal
 
Hello all
I have had this z for a little over 1 year now and just recently the clutch pedal has gotten easier to push, it has me trippin a little bit. Does it have to do with me needing to change the clutch fluid? If so can i do it myself? I have never changed it, is that bad? Should I change it more often? It still shifts fine but took it on a long trip to Vegas and now its feeling different. Any tips? Do it yourself clutch fluid changing guides maybe? Thanks in advance for your help!!

Zbrah 08-29-2016 03:06 PM

Google 370z csc and master cylinder issues.

Billibob22 08-29-2016 03:48 PM

Loose clutch petal
 
What are the symptoms of a csc failure?
It still has pressure and drives fine, just little less pressure when I press the pedal is all?


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Jsolo 08-29-2016 10:45 PM

What does your petal look like?

Like this? http://pad3.whstatic.com/images/thum...Jam-Step-1.jpg

Pedal stiffness is dictated primarily by the pressure plate fingers. That is after all what you're pressing against to release the clutch. I suppose it's possible for the spring tension to weaken on these fingers and pedal pressure to change. A fail[ing] csc will typically have a fluctuating grab point, or even all the way at the floor and dead pedal for majority of its travel.

Changing clutch fluid is very easy. Just did it a few days ago on mine. You'll need some apparatus to remove the old fluid from the reservoir (but not completely), then either gravity bleed or have a helper pump the pedal slowly then hold while you open and close the bleeder screw at the trans. I did a combination of gravity bleeding to flush new fluid through the system, then a helper for good measure.

Post a pic of your clutch fluid reservoir with the cover removed.

Billibob22 08-29-2016 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 3545626)
What does your petal look like?

Like this? http://pad3.whstatic.com/images/thum...Jam-Step-1.jpg

Pedal stiffness is dictated primarily by the pressure plate fingers. That is after all what you're pressing against to release the clutch. I suppose it's possible for the spring tension to weaken on these fingers and pedal pressure to change. A fail[ing] csc will typically have a fluctuating grab point, or even all the way at the floor and dead pedal for majority of its travel.

Changing clutch fluid is very easy. Just did it a few days ago on mine. You'll need some apparatus to remove the old fluid from the reservoir (but not completely), then either gravity bleed or have a helper pump the pedal slowly then hold while you open and close the bleeder screw at the trans. I did a combination of gravity bleeding to flush new fluid through the system, then a helper for good measure.

Post a pic of your clutch fluid reservoir with the cover removed.



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Billibob22 08-30-2016 12:09 AM

Loose clutch petal
 
Found this Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBbsy0LjUvE
Here
http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...ease-look.html
Will this do it?
If so, can you tell me which fluid to purchase?
Jeez, looks dirty.. I feel bad.. I wish I knew about it before... Kind of car stupid lol right down to the "petal" haha!
Thanks for replying ;-)

Jsolo 08-30-2016 08:38 AM

Several thoughts.

1) Level appears to be at the lower level marker. How long ago (time and miles) was the fluid last changed? I don't recall ever seeing my level drop. Even after 14K miles/3.5yrs (first change) and 8K miles/1yr (2nd change) intervals.

Take a look at this - link .

2) I'd start by doing a thorough flush/bleed. Monitor the level often and closely. It shouldn't move at all. If it does, be prepared for a CSC replacement. Considering your car is a 2010 with unspecified mileage, it's probably time for a clutch anyways. Replace the MC while you're at it.

Any dot 3/4 fluid would work.

Billibob22 08-30-2016 08:47 AM

Like most things on this car probably never changed...
This car seemed to be neglected.
57000 miles
I'll let you know how it goes! Thanks again!


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Jsolo 08-30-2016 08:54 AM

Honestly, I wasn't planning on doing the clutch this year, but decided to pop the cap off after getting done with the brake fluid and didn't like what I saw. Because the OE fluid is less performance oriented dot 3, I think it's less hygroscopic, so it lasts a bit longer.

Benefit of dot 4 and other high performance fluids is its higher wet boiling point. Given the way I drive the car this doesn't really apply.

Billibob22 08-30-2016 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 3545751)
Several thoughts.

1) Level appears to be at the lower level marker. How long ago (time and miles) was the fluid last changed? I don't recall ever seeing my level drop. Even after 14K miles/3.5yrs (first change) and 8K miles/1yr (2nd change) intervals.

Take a look at this - link .

2) I'd start by doing a thorough flush/bleed. Monitor the level often and closely. It shouldn't move at all. If it does, be prepared for a CSC replacement. Considering your car is a 2010 with unspecified mileage, it's probably time for a clutch anyways. Replace the MC while you're at it.

Any dot 3/4 fluid would work.



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Got it done!! I will watch the fluid for sure now! Thank you so much it already shifts better.
The fluid that came out was all watery and nasty!!
Clear now!

Jsolo 08-30-2016 03:04 PM

An outdoor lift?? Now I've seen it all.

Billibob22 08-30-2016 03:05 PM

Dude it was so awesome
I had no idea this Rick guy had one
Car repairs no problem now!!

Chuck33079 08-30-2016 03:42 PM

Start setting aside funds for a CSC replacement. The dark stuff in that fluid is the seals inside the CSC.

Billibob22 08-30-2016 03:44 PM

Alright,
How long do i have, do you think?
How much does that run?

Chuck33079 08-30-2016 04:59 PM

Should be 6-8 hours of shop time. It could go at any time. People here have had a failure at 1k miles. Do some reading. Its probably the most discussed topic on the forum.


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