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Wonka2581 02-29-2016 07:25 AM

Z1 upper control arms, NEED HELP..
 
Hey all,

I recently installed Swift springs, and due to the camber I ordered and installed Z1 upper control arms (street version) and SPL rear camber arms and toe bolts.

Installation went smooth on all aspects. I followed the instructions to a "T" that being said.. I worked on the car across the street at my neighbors house (he has a full garage set up complete with air tools" any way's.. After the install I had to go to work so I could not run her by an alignment shop (plan on taking it Wednesday) but as I pulled out of his driveway and into my drive way I could not believe the noise that was coming from the upper control arms.. they are popping/squeaking and making all kinds of god awful noise..

If I'm not mistaken aren't these supposed to come pre greased and ready to install?

Any help would be very grateful... I'm trying to trouble shoot this before I call Z1

As always,

Thanks!:driving:

Wonka2581 02-29-2016 07:28 AM

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Wonka2581 02-29-2016 07:29 AM

Haha.. Sorry I just noticed the typo on the headline.. Sorry..


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RAMOS 02-29-2016 07:53 AM

You will have to grease them up. The dry bushings on the dry bolts are going to be causing a lot of noise and wear. Grease them up ASAP to prevent them from getting damaged.

Rusty 02-29-2016 10:34 AM

Rule of thumb. Always check to see if it needs grease before install. Grease it after install.

02-29-2016 10:34 AM

So they don't come greased up? I'm picking up a set soon.

Wonka2581 02-29-2016 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Parra (Post 3425220)
So they don't come greased up? I'm picking up a set soon.

Don't seem that way... Ill hit them up with a grease gun on Wednesday... Ill let you know if that fixes the issue..

RAMOS 02-29-2016 11:28 AM

Z1 upper control arms, NEED HELP..
 
Even if they were pre-greased. You should always re-grease after install. Metal on metal friction is not good. Keep us posted on this Wonka.

Btw, nice choice going with Z1 and SPL.

Wonka2581 02-29-2016 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAMOS (Post 3425290)
Even if they were pre-greased. You should always re-grease after install. Metal on metal friction is not good. Keep us posted on this Wonka.

Btw, nice choice going with Z1 and SPL.

Thank you, And will do;)

Zrider79 02-29-2016 01:45 PM

I was wondering how well the z1 uca held up.

ValidusVentus 02-29-2016 09:26 PM

Just be careful. Grease only the rubber bushings. Most quality heim joints/sphericals used in automobile applications have a teflon insert and are not meant to be lubricated. If you lubricate them it will interfere with the (wait, can the word "deposition" be used that way?) of the teflon on the metal, the teflon is intended to be the lubricant.

RAMOS 02-29-2016 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ValidusVentus (Post 3425998)
Just be careful. Grease only the rubber bushings. Most quality heim joints/sphericals used in automobile applications have a teflon insert and are not meant to be lubricated. If you lubricate them it will interfere with the (wait, can the word "deposition" be used that way?) of the teflon on the metal, the teflon is intended to be the lubricant.


I am pretty sure it's a steel bolt going through a brass bushing...

Presto 02-29-2016 09:59 PM

a person on the G forums is also having issues with these.

Z1 Front Upper Control Arm (race) followup - MyG37

maybe better to return them rather than wasting time unless of course z1 fixes them up quick

Wonka2581 02-29-2016 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ValidusVentus (Post 3425998)
Just be careful. Grease only the rubber bushings. Most quality heim joints/sphericals used in automobile applications have a teflon insert and are not meant to be lubricated. If you lubricate them it will interfere with the (wait, can the word "deposition" be used that way?) of the teflon on the metal, the teflon is intended to be the lubricant.

Ya I was only going to try to use a grease gun on the grease fittings to see how it goes first.

Wonka2581 02-29-2016 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Presto (Post 3426022)
a person on the G forums is also having issues with these.

Z1 Front Upper Control Arm (race) followup - MyG37

maybe better to return them rather than wasting time unless of course z1 fixes them up quick

Yes, I did read where someone had a lose Allen on the ball joint. I checked those before installing them.. They were not tight at all. I put a little bit of lock tight and tightened them up.

02-29-2016 10:38 PM

What do you guys think about the kinetic upper control arms ?

02-29-2016 11:44 PM

;)Nvm Google'd it .....spl

Wonka2581 03-01-2016 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by David Parra (Post 3426067)
;)Nvm Google'd it .....spl

From what I have heard, SPL are not the best quality. Also if you plan on ever tracking your car I would stay away from them.

axmea? 03-01-2016 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 3426138)
From what I have heard, SPL are not the best quality. Also if you plan on ever tracking your car I would stay away from them.

Really? SPL?

Chuck33079 03-01-2016 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 3426138)
From what I have heard, SPL are not the best quality. Also if you plan on ever tracking your car I would stay away from them.


You sure you don't mean SPC?

Wonka2581 03-01-2016 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3426144)
You sure you don't mean SPC?

Oops ya SPC... Sorry it's way to early.. Lol

Wonka2581 03-02-2016 08:55 AM

So got the life time alignment at Firestone a couple months ago. Took the Z there to have it aligned and they told me "we're going to refund your money, we're not equipped to work on your car. You will have to take it somewhere else"

What and the actual fuc*!!!!!

Zauskycop 03-02-2016 09:07 AM

Yup...many places will not work on cars that either desire "out of spec" alignments, or have too much aftermarket stuff. Find a local SCCA group and check where the autocrossers go.

Tracy Ramsey

Wonka2581 03-02-2016 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zauskycop (Post 3427203)
Yup...many places will not work on cars that either desire "out of spec" alignments, or have too much aftermarket stuff. Find a local SCCA group and check where the autocrossers go.

Tracy Ramsey

Ya it's total bull shi*.. Already made an appointment with my local Nissan dealer for in the morning..

ValidusVentus 03-03-2016 01:57 AM

I just didn't want anyone potentially trying to "just lube everything" and hope the sound goes away.

YzGyz 03-03-2016 07:29 AM

Just breaks has a lifetime alignment program too. There are lots of them so that means they might have an in ground lift. That's who I have. The manager and lead tech took care of me no problem. Just buy them a soda to persuade them if you have too.

YzGyz

Spooler 03-03-2016 10:52 AM

Buy SPL parts. There is a reason so many folks on this forum love them. I never questioned why, just bought them yesterday.

Wonka2581 03-03-2016 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3428349)
Buy SPL parts. There is a reason so many folks on this forum love them. I never questioned why, just bought them yesterday.

I totally agree but when your on a budget you gotta take what you can get. Also z1 is a good company..

Spooler 03-03-2016 12:17 PM

I am on a budget, coilovers have been sitting in a box since Sept-Aug last year. Save for the good stuff.


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