SPL rear camber arms
 

Just got back in from finally having my alignment done.
In the end the guys basically said the SPL camber arms are First Class stuff.
They said that often stock parts are as good, if not better than some of the aftermarket stuff they see. The SPL arms were exceptions to that. As good a part as they ever see.

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Makes me feel better spending a little more over spc. What's your alignment #s like?

guess what came in today for me
SPL SUSPENSION
rear titanium camber arms
eccentric lockout kit
rear toe bolts
https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...16&oe=55EE6438

Toe bolts SPL too?

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Numbers
 

Rear Left Camber -1.59, Toe 0.05 in.
Rear Right Camber -1.64, Toe 0.05 in.

Front Left ended up -1.22, Toe 0.03 in.
Front Right ended up -1.48, Toe 0.02 in....Right Front camber just out of spec.
Nothing can be done with the front camber unless I get the SPL front arms.

The only issue the alignment shop had was on the left rear and getting the toe bolt to hold tight. He could move it with two wrenches after it was torqued. He wasn't happy with it. He replaced it with a stock Nissan toe bolt. All good.
When the bolt was removed and inspected, it was stretched. His response was sometimes the aftermarket stuff is not any better, or even as good as the stock parts. The toe bolt in his words was, Gar-Bage.
He suggested I keep an eye out for signs of the right rear slipping and if so, pop the stocker back in that side too.

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Looks like you need toe links or mid links then ;)

Glad to hear this. Just ordered the SPL rear camber arms and toe bolts, along with Swift springs last night.

where did u order swifts ? their sold out everywhere till june lol i can't find any

yup

From MAPerformance via Amazon. The web page says their in stock and once I placed my order, the notice said they would be shipped Monday.

http://www.amazon.com/Swift-Spec-R-L...t+springs+370z

Curious
 

I'm curious. What would these links do for me other than replace 'inferior' parts?
Something there in the numbers that tells you I ought to add them?

Thanks Scott.

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Just replace inferior parts. You'll be able to control toe via the arms adjuster and lock out that crap eccentric. Performance gain also maybe by getting another spherical bearing.

OK...I just looked. The toe links seems to be if you are on coilovers. The mid-link replaces the spring bucket and lets you remove the eccentric toe bolt and lock it out there. Adjustment is done on the link using an adjuster not unlike the one like the one on the camber arms. Those are pricy rigs.....look like typical SPL quality pieces.

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I was just at the Concept Z performance site. It looked like they have Swifts in stock.

https://conceptzperformance.com

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So spc toe bolts are no good? I think I'll take my chances with the oem bolts and see how alignments come out first then maybe get the spl bolts if needed.

Well...
 

Not to slag SPC since it might just have been an exception, but the toe bolt stretched which is why he claimed he couldn't hold position. (if it turns or moves the toe is altered) The guy had never heard of elongating the holes or using anything other than the stock toe bolts. He implied that a drop of only one inch (or so) doesn't require anything other than the original holes or toe bolts to get toe in spec as long as you don't expect to get spec camber and toe numbers leaving the stock arms in.....if that makes sense.

Adjustable camber arms + stock holes + stock toe bolts = spec toe and camber numbers with Swifts.

If you still want to run SPC toe bolts I have a 2nd set you can have for nada.
I think it was defective or something. The other one is in the right side and it held fine according to him. And these guys are Anal about the work they do.
I will be back.

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Good idea...
 

The alignment shop slid a metal beam from one side of the lift to the other and used a bottle jack to raise the spring bucket to extract the 'bad' bolt. The replacement just popped in. It only took about 5 additional minutes after the initial 10 or so messing around trying to figure out what was going wrong.
I figure anyone not 'above the board' might have just let me drive away the way it was. He wasn't happy and went about resolving it.
In the end I asked him it he had added something to the bill for doing that, since fair is fair in my books. He said he added $10.
I was happy with that.
FYI....I stood a few feet from the lift the whole time asking how all their equipment worked. I also have a really good idea of what's going on under there now since Merv and I installed the Swifts, then I went back in last weekend to do the hole mod and toe bolt install and again one night this past week. I understood every step they took.

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So many conflicting stories in this subject. There was no way my toe was getting back in stock bolts and swift springs. I elongated holes, used SPC bolts... Toe in check now, and I have piece of mind.


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Lol yes they are but you can find them used, I did.

??
 

Not sure I understand you.
You did adjustable camber arms as well, and couldn't get the toe back with the stockers? Or, you were not worried about camber at all and couldn't get the toe into spec without using the SPC toe bolts?


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Conflicting information
 

You're certainly right about all the conflicting stories. I had to do a lot of searching to find out what was needed with the Swifts and the more I looked, the less it became definitive. Some people went one route, others another, some said you needed this, other said you don't. I was willing to pay what it took to get it right but I couldn't get a straight answer on what it took. I didn't want to do it half a**** job only to find out I had fallen short. I believe I have done everything it requires to get the rear camber and toe into factory spec. If I went too far I can't say.
In response to your situation.....I can tell you that RIGHT NOW there is a stock Nissan toe bolt in the driver's side spring bucket of my Z and toe is within spec. Everybody seems to get different results so I can't dispute what you're saying. So.....I bought all the parts that my research told me would definitively get my toe and camber into spec when installing Swifts. It appears maybe I lucked out a bit when the aftermarket toe bolt failed and the stock one resolved the issue.
The big numbers of questions I've received in E-mails and PMs regarding this topic tells me I'm not the only person who found (finds) the information ambiguous.
Yes, the thread count is many, and the post number huge, but overall the information isn't conclusive. I am still getting E-mails and Pms asking for my input when it comes to what other Z owners ought to buy. I don't claim to be an expert by any means, but I do know what I bought in addition to the Swifts to get where I'm at.

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