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eddix 03-23-2015 10:56 AM

Rear Pad Replacement
 
I have a 2013 base coupe with 19k miles on it and need new rear pads. I have one quote for $507.00. Is that a fair price for replacement and installation of rear pads only? Seems high to me.

JARblue 03-23-2015 11:32 AM

:eek:

That is outrageous. Like more than double what it should cost for just the rears. Was this a dealer (if so, which one) or a local shop?

There's no need to pay more than $75 for rear pads on a DD. Stock pads or something like Centric PosiQuiets will be fine for street use. If you have the sport package, you don't even have to remove the calipers to change the pads. Either way, installation shouldn't cost more than an hour labor or so ($80-100 depending on shop location).

brancky3 03-23-2015 11:38 AM

That's a very high price to get pads changed. If you are mechanically inclined enough to remove your rear wheels then you are also mechanically inclined enough to change your own pads, just something to think about.

NORAIN 03-23-2015 02:44 PM

:iagree: It's easy! The caliper stays on if you have akebono's.
How did you burn through your rear pads so fast? Have you already changed the fronts?

JARblue 03-23-2015 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NORAIN (Post 3146395)
How did you burn through your rear pads so fast? Have you already changed the fronts?

:iagree: At 65K miles, I'm still on my original rear pads :driving:

eddix 03-23-2015 03:15 PM

Thank you for the replies gentlemen. Going to replace the pads myself.

JARblue 03-23-2015 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eddix (Post 3146414)
Thank you for the replies gentlemen. Going to replace the pads myself.

Smart man :tup:

imjello 03-23-2015 04:28 PM

I just hit 50k and changed my brakes, a bit early but I had the cash to do it now. when I got my car at 20k, it already had new tires and new pads. I'm guessing these cars can go through brakes, oh and tires if you are on it a lot

kenchan 03-23-2015 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3146202)
:eek:

:rofl2: hahaha!

kenchan 03-23-2015 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by eddix (Post 3146414)
Thank you for the replies gentlemen. Going to replace the pads myself.

just make sure to wear disposable gloves. you hands will get VERY dirty :D
GL with the swap. dont forget crc brake quiet.

eddix 03-24-2015 07:23 AM

Thanks for all the replies. Any thoughts on why the rear pads would need replacing with the front pads still at 90%? Since it's a front engine car, shouldn't the front pads go first?

brancky3 03-24-2015 07:36 AM

It's possible that the calipers are sticking or the e-brake is slightly engaged. When the pads are changed check for uneven wear

JARblue 03-24-2015 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by eddix (Post 3147100)
Thanks for all the replies. Any thoughts on why the rear pads would need replacing with the front pads still at 90%? Since it's a front engine car, shouldn't the front pads go first?

Yes, the fronts should be far more worn than the rears. Something is going on. I would check the operation of the calipers first.

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Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3147113)
It's possible that the calipers are sticking or the e-brake is slightly engaged. When the pads are changed check for uneven wear

The e-brake uses it's own braking drum on the rear wheel hubs. It does not interact with the brake pads.

imjello 03-24-2015 07:56 AM

Correct me if I am wrong please, is the traction control brake ( and engine )operated? Could excessive use of the vdc with hard driving effect pad loss? Just a huntch

JARblue 03-24-2015 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by imjello (Post 3147136)
Correct me if I am wrong please, is the traction control brake ( and engine )operated? Could excessive use of the vdc with hard driving effect pad loss? Just a huntch

Doubt it. VDC (or ABLS) does use the brakes, but not like hard braking does. I don't think there's any way that VDC could wear down the rears like that in 20K with the fronts barely worn. I guess maybe if you power slide every turn for 20K miles it might start to show signs of more wear on the rears than fronts. Maybe. Another unlikely possibility is a software/programming malfunction related to VDC.

OP is under warranty, no? I might be tempted to take it to the dealer and say :wtf: They may be a$$holes about it and say that rotors and pads are wear items that aren't covered, but don't accept that bs. Make sure they know your fronts are fine and there's no explanation for why the rears would wear out so fast.

kenchan 03-24-2015 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by imjello (Post 3147136)
Correct me if I am wrong please, is the traction control brake ( and engine )operated? Could excessive use of the vdc with hard driving effect pad loss? Just a huntch

yep, i think it does. my rears wear faster than the fronts on my G. but i scratch my head because i dont use VDC... :confused:

kenchan 03-24-2015 04:52 PM

VDC are for wimps.

Shadowfax65 03-28-2015 12:14 PM

Ouch! thats insane. I had my rears done at Firestone, for $110 on a service special which applied to base model non sport btw, (they would not have extended that price to a Sport package). That's with resurfacing the rotors and new stock pads. But the stock rotors if needed are only about $65 ea. and pads about $40 so these guys wanna whack you approximately $400 in labor!?!?!

Shadowfax65 03-28-2015 12:17 PM

My rears went at 45k, still got the fronts at 51k. I bought the car with 25K so I don't know how much the previous owner used the VDC. I only leave it on in the wet so, most of my driving is with it off. But, yeah I guess the VDC could use up rears faster than fronts if you leave it on

JARblue 03-28-2015 01:01 PM

My thought is with VDC off, the ABLS still actives braking during wheel slip. But it's very easy to over power, so that's what leads me to believe it is light braking and shouldn't wear down the rears super quick. I wheel slip a lot and I do not have any issues with the rear pad wear.

It sounds like some think that VDC on brakes when you start to lose traction. But I believe the engine just cuts power. I don't think VDC on actually brakes... It does brake. That's also ABLS's job, which it does regardless of whether VDC is on or off.

Spooler 03-28-2015 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3152468)
My thought is with VDC off, the ABLS still actives braking during wheel slip. But it's very easy to over power, so that's what leads me to believe it is light braking and shouldn't wear down the rears super quick. I wheel slip a lot and I do not have any issues with the rear pad wear.

It sounds like some think that VDC on brakes when you start to lose traction. But I believe the engine just cuts power. I don't think VDC on actually brakes... that's ABLS job, which it does regardless of whether VDC is on or off.

It really depends on the driver. Get someone who does not know how to drive properly and it will activate more wearing the pads more. It is actually the same for brakes in general. Some folks can wear them down in 20K miles and others they are good to over 50K. I am talking about on the street, not the track. VDC does activate the brakes, especially the rear. Even though you turn off VDC, it is never really off.

JARblue 03-28-2015 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3152491)
VDC does activate the brakes, especially the rear.

OK gotcha, so VDC does brake hard when it is on and activated. I hate when I forget to turn it off and it causes the whole car to lurch when I try to accelerate quickly. Leaving my neighborhood pulling out onto a 60 mph 3 lane road can be a bit nerve wracking when VDC cuts engine power and brakes for me :eekdance:

Spooler 03-28-2015 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3152607)
OK gotcha, so VDC does brake hard when it is on and activated. I hate when I forget to turn it off and it causes the whole car to lurch when I try to accelerate quickly. Leaving my neighborhood pulling out onto a 60 mph 3 lane road can be a bit nerve wracking when VDC cuts engine power and brakes for me :eekdance:

Yeap, it messed up my powerslide and about put me in the ditch. At that point, I started hating it... :)

JARblue 03-28-2015 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3152677)
Yeap, it messed up my powerslide and about put me in the ditch. At that point, I started hating it... :)

lol I've always hated it... but I have to leave it on sometimes. To keep my tire wear in check :icon17:


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