I want to purchase AMUSE BODY KITS for my 370z
 

I saw $5000 , and $1500 full kits.

are real ones and fake ones hav huge differences ??

what kind of differences do they hav?

replica versus authentic

Only major difference!

Were the Hell did you find a replica amuse body kit for $1500?

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Nissan 370Z Body Kits and Ground Effects - 370Z Tuner

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thnx man. I think I should buy authentic .. feel nervous to buy replica

Support Amuse by purchasing the original; they did the work designing and producing the kit.

I was into show "ricer" cars for a good couple of years almost every replica kit I would buy had some sort of issue not lining up cracked, or completly off. Never had an issue with original parts

I sent several e-mails to 370z tune and they did not reply me..

I want to price match and reply me please thnx

UAM sells the Amuse replicas amuse and looks good. Even with so called" authentic " kits theres still fitment issues.

We actually didn't receive any of your emails, but I replied to your PM, so check your inbox!

Every FRP part needs a some tweaking to fit on a car; there are too many variances between resins and production conditions to have every part be exactly the same every time. However, the better the quality of the part, the less work there is to make it perfect.

Amuse has a favorable reputation for their aero being easy to fit on multiple cars, not just the 370Z.

I know I sound like a broken record, but ultimately, it's about supporting the people that designed the kit. Amuse already stated that they're considering suspending aero design for all cars due to knock-offs. If we don't support the ones designing the parts, there's going to be no innovation going forward.

It's "so called" because they designed it. No two cars are exactly the same. That's why you will always need a margin of adjustment. If I had to choose and had the funds, I would choose the authentic over the replica every time. I have mixed feelings when it comes to replicas since these companies could just as easily develop a kit of their own. At least some are modifying the original design instead of making it just an imitation.

With any kit purchased there is bond to be issues. I can speak for it. I have both. The amuse does not fit perfect without body work. Fujimura im also having the same issue as well as the zele. Are are not going to get it outta the box 100% perfect. And the sad thing is 5k isnt the real price for the kit. There is multiple vendor on this forum that can get the Authentic amuse kit for cheaper then 5k. I was ropped when I paid for mine.

Well if Amuse made kits affordable for people to put on their $30K 370z, there might not be any knock-offs. I understand 370ztune that you are just trying to sell them through your shop - but $5K + shipping + painted and install is too much for a Z... You are looking when all is said and done at $8K+ if you bought the real Amuse kit... Get them to bring down their price and I bet there would not be any need for a knock-off.. But the big swing from $2600K for a full kit with wing and the $5k is too much for some..

The cost comes from all the R&D costs in making the original kit in Japan. FRP molds in Japan can cost in excess of $30K. They need to amortize the costs of this into every piece until they're totally paid off.

The only reason the $2600 price for the knock-off can exist is because they were able to have some cheap molds made off an authentic kit. (No time invested in drawing a design, purchasing a Z, adding clay and foam to the exterior, spending hours of sculpting to make everything look perfect and symmetrical, making prototype molds off that, testing the production of the prototype parts, adjusting the molds and so on and so forth)

The production costs in SoCal for FRP are also very low. I can pretty much guarantee you that the knock-off kits make more money for the sellers than the real Amuse kit does for them. Especially when it costs about $200 (or less in most cases) for a knock-off bumper to be produced that is then marked up 300% (or more).

^ and how would you know the Socal Mold is cheap? Since when do you have to buy a car to build a kit?

I must disagree. IDK what the heck he is talking about how so cal mold is cheap. For one, they dont know where the mold is bought or produced. Two, you dont need to buy a car to produce a part. IMO CF kit looks way better the the reagular amuse.

We've been producing aero parts for GT-R and Evo X here in SoCal, so I know what molding fees cost and what's necessary to setup and what each piece can cost.

Most of the Japanese tuners purchase cars from the manufacturers for their demo cars. They often get access to the cars before they are released to the general public, so that they can begin R&D early.

To produce an aero part that looks good and fits, it makes sense to have an actual car for production. When these companies make aero, they design the parts much like the OEMs do with hand-sculpted clay on the actual car, from which molds are made.

:iagree: That sux. Buy authentic body kits! Are there any laws against replicas (intellectual property infringement or something)?

Each company operates differently with their business. And I will leave it at that.

If you agree. Then why not support them and buy a kit?

There are laws, but in international trade they are nebulous and hard to enforce at best.

If I decide to buy a body kit, I will definitely buy authentic. I will buy an authentic kit to support the people who came up with the design instead of supporting the people who steal their ideas and work.

So if it cost $30K for R&D work with design and development then they would only need to sell 6 kits to recoup the cost.. So if they sold 12 kits at $2500 each then they would recoupe their cost as well. Don't see the logic in selling a kit for $5K sorry..

Hey I would love to support Amuse - just can't afford too.. So I'm thankful that there are knock-offs and quality ones at that.. I'm ok with them making a profit because in the end they are saving me $$...

ya know R&D is one thing. labor and then materials to build is another cost that keeps adding. So its not like if they sold 6 kits for 5k they made a profit of 30k... nothing works that way ever unless your selling vapor and ideas.

It's $30K for the molds alone, this doesn't include the cost to produce each kit, packaging, the cost of shipping each kit from their factory to them, then all the other costs incurred. It's not as straightforward as you're making it seem. Additionally, we as Amuse's dealers have to pay for shipping from Japan, as well as customs duties, and we need to make some money off the kit as well.

The excuse people use of "not able to afford" something is relative; I know quite a few people that save up their money until they can "afford" to buy. In the end it's prioritizing whether one cares to support another's hard work or to support their own wallet.

Point noted.. BUT….. I can guarantee that most of Americans would not be in the "hey I want to pay more for something because of all the hard work they put into building this product".. That after school special had its door closed a long time ago. People tend to be smart with their money or at least try to be. If you want to blow you money on a kit that is not worth the $$ then so be it. Telling me about all the R&D stuff that went behind it is great, but in the end they did not build this kit for a Porsche, they built it for a 370z, so price it that way Again - if Amuse dropped their price there would not be an issues with rep. I put enough energy for the day on this topic – I’m sorry your business is being hurt by all the Reps being made.. Maybe you got into the wrong business? And I'm out... lol:ughdance:

It's unfortunate that you feel like supporting those that steal other people's hard work is acceptable.

Honestly, the replica business is much more profitable; that's why dealers of those parts make insane amounts of money off the consumer.

We choose to work hard to support innovation and great design and not sell replica products. If knock-offs win, then great design is dead because the original companies either go out of business or stop designing parts that can be bought by the public. This cycle ends up as a zero-sum game because you eventually have nothing new being released, so the consumer loses and the producer loses. At that point you have a bunch of replica parts companies releasing "new designs" for body kits that look and fit like crap.

It's kind of like buying a kit car that looks like an Lamborghini or Ferrari. As someone who works in the design field, there is nothing worst than someone stealing your intellectual property and making a profit over your hard work.
Some of these kits are so expensive because of the exchange rate. They also have to charge more to see any kind of profit. They could undoubtfully charge less if they were making more, but guess who's leaching off their sales. If you can't afford a kit or think it's out of your budget, that's kind of your problem. I wish a set of Volks TE37's didnt cost of $3k, but I'd rather save for the real thing than buy the knock off's.

Companies aren't in business to make people happy, they're in it for a profit. Simple as that. They don't care about the person that can't afford it, they care about those that can. Do people honestly think the CEO of Ferrari gives a rats a** about why some kid driving a Kia can't afford a 458 Italia. I think not.

Heck, it's your prerogative if you want to buy a counterfeit product. No one is stopping you. I'm sure it will function all the same. I just wouldn't try to pass it for the real thing.

I support the company that does the r & d not the ones that that the easy way out and knock off.

I will gladly pay the extra if not double the cost to get the real deal.

Having fake crap or knock offs will kill the industry. We will end up with no innovation as they wont have anyone to copy.

I just want to put my two cents in and all because I would like to get the body kit for my 370z also. But here is my complaint about copies and originals. If every great piece of art wasn't copied then the rest of the world would not see it. EX. I have seen the real and the fake when it comes to paintings, pottery, and buildings because I have been around the world, but my other family members aren't as well off as others so they haven't seen them at all so when someone says there is a replica of the mona lisa by one of leonardo da vinci's students at the muesuem located nearest you they go and look and pay good money to see it. It means that they get a little piece in life knowing they got to see something awesome for something that they can afford.